Ground RB / SB
Turm III 8.3 > 9.0 very powerful medium tank with a 5.0 sec reload and auto cannon, and great gun depression, very good mobility, very quote engine / track sound, often it’s so open it will be hit with little to no damage
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I guess one good news for Britain, the GTA V tank (TTD) adds some support for those running the FV4030/3. Though, you watch, they’ll send the FV4030/3 to 10.3 in the next addition to this list.
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They don’t listen to mass additions unfortunately
then it should get lrf and darts? or ur going to say its fine without those
No to all your Abram increases. No thank you.
Vehicle: Spyder AIO
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.7 → 12.0
Reason: The Spyder AIO is currently being treated as a top tier SPAA when, in fact, it is performing in a much worse way than the other SPAAs at the same BR.
The missiles it fires are slow, have trouble hitting the target, often lose lock and have a shorter reach.
In addition, the platform itself is extremely limited compared to the multi-vehicle systems such as the SAMP/T or BUK. The Spyder AIO has only 8 missiles ready, which can be increased to 16 missiles if you acutally have the time to deploy the ammunition crate. Those other multi-vehicle platforms have 16 missiles ready to launch with another 16 to be resupplied. The launchers can also be hidden behind buildings, limiting the chance of discovery by the enemy. The Spyder, on the other hand, is limited to one huge system which can be easily spotted and destroyed. It simply isn’t reasonable to treat this SPAA as its other 12.7 counterparts.
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Not giving that clickbait a click:
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The problem is that the players who play it suck at the game. And since br balance includes player performance, nothings going to change. If you go look at its stats youll see theyre abysmal.
F-2A ADTW
ARB
13.0 → 12.7
The performance should be equal to other F-15A so it should go down together.
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F-5TH TCU
ARB
13.0 → 12.7
The performance overall compared to FOX-3 aircraft in this br is not that good it is better in 12.7 with only 2 FOX-3 and 2 FOX-2.
MiG-21bis Bison
ARB
12.3 → 12.7
Give it R-77 and extra countermeasures and it would be equal to F-5TH overall performance.
Anti Air APDS is not the problem. It is the APIT that acts like a long 88 shell that is the actual issue.
The APIT should be replaced with HE and they should keep the very limited reserve APDS so theyre not completely useless when theres no planes up.
Also since the ones that have the APDS included in the main belt are losing their APDS they should go down in BR as theyre pretty bad at anti air.
One has no radar and the other has a really bad radar that is only there to mess up your shot while also having no stabilization making it incredibly sluggish to react to incoming planes.
Thank you for puting the Marne and Aisne at destroyer spawns! Now just up the Amines one or two BRs. Am 100mm+ gun should not see small boats with 20mm guns!
I wasn’t (entirely) serious about that LOL.
Fix HESH or just not add an entire line of tanks… what will Gaijin do?
could still be a fun little rat flanker, good and fun are not always the same thing
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All guns anti-air rework spawn cost
All HE/AHEAD Belt should be the same low spawn cost to make it do the real anti-air duty.
All AP/APDS Belt should share the spawn cost with MBT/LT so it should have more points to waste than what is being right now.
This should better balance out the SPAA with guns situation right now.
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You mean give SPAAs belt cost like planes? I like that idea!
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Yes
Fundamentally it just dies really easy. Any hit to the turret is likely to ammo rack it or kill the crew, so it ends up with a rather high luck component and difficult skill check to doing really well.
Although its global KD is pretty good 1.22, personally I suggested 8.7 earlier in the thread. 9.0 seems a bit much when iirc it doesn’t have an LRF and no APFSDS.
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100% Even then Im pretty sure I could make it work and have good games in it, theres plenty of more lightly armoured enemies around 8.3-8.7 where I bet a Scorpion 90 would be.
I think we both know the answer to that :P
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Centauro 120 is one of the slower light vehicles at that tier.
Gun is nothing special, reload is nothing special, has bad gun depression.
It’s really, really mid.
Or extend highest BR to 15.3 and give this thing AAM-4 then move it up to 13.7 and the tech tree version give it AAM-4B then also move it up to 14.0-14.3.
Please make the F-2A ADTW more playable. With the current bug of hard-lock radar and RWR alert at 50% of the range right bow it’s so annoying.