i just use HMS belfast as its my favourite warship in game. no intrest in going near the fake russian ships of alternate universe bias
Would instantly be thrown to the side for HMS Cavalier but shes not here yet
Vehicle: MIG 29 G
Gamemode: Air realistic & Ground realistic
BR Change: ARB: 13.0 —> 12.7 GRB: 12.0—> 11.7
Reason: The mig 29g is completely outclassed at 13.0 by vehicles such as the base Su 27s, which have 6x the number of r27ers while having the same number of r73s. If we are moving down the f15as, we should move some of the current 13.0s as well, espicially the ones that do not have access to fox 3 missiles. The mig 29 g also does not have a good rwr, making it quite obsolete fighting against fox 3s. The mig 29 g should also be moved down in br in ground realistic battles, as it lacks good CAS capabilities while having a terrible RWR.
Leclerc MSC: 11.0 => 10.7
Offensive wise it’s decent, but the lack of survivability has been an issue for a while already … and has only been amplified with the arrival of BMPTs penetrating it everywhere
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Weapon:
RB74
Give IRCCM
It should have it and 4 of its users are in need of it
JA37D would need to be moved up in br to compensate
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wUHHzvkzZVo9
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Vehicle: Hunter F6 (Britain)
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 9.3
Reason: The Hunter F6 has very limited GRB potential, with a minimal A2G weapons load, especially alongside missiles and no CMs. Compared directly to the Hunter FGA9 already at 9.3, let alone other 9.3s such as the Buc S2 with both CMs and CCIP, it is notably underpowered in this role.
The main strength for it, is the AAMs that would give a much needed CAP option for our 9.3 line-up which is about to become our primary BR of this bracket.
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Vehicle: BI rocket plane USSR
Game Mode: Air RB / Air Realistic
BR change: 6.7 to 7.3
Reasoning:
The rocket plane is outperforming every opponent at its current BR. Even as the fuel load looks rather small the fuel efficiency is highly unrealistic - with low throttle the fuel lasts for ages.
In addition the 2 x 45 rounds of 20 mm ShVak are enough for any non-rookie player to score 3-5 kills with one ammo load - thanks to the damage output buff for the weakest 20 mm cannon in irl (WW 2) with RS 2.0 / 3.0.
In order to kill a BI there are just 2 viable strategies:
- Swarm it aggressively with multiple planes at the same time in order to enforce them to use 100% power to evade the attacks - this has to be repeated until the BI runs out of fuel and can’t escape as their rip speed is too low.
- Wait in orbit until the BI scored 2-3 kills and is heading to rearm refuel to his forward airfield and strafe it on the runway.
This is no subjective observation - these threads deal with the current op status of the BI - highly experienced Air RB players confirm this in detailed analysis spread amongst more than 200 posts (with together more than 10k views):
BI at 6.7 is April Fools event,. only it’s going 24/7 for the last few years
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YAK-9UT
GRB
5.7->7.0
way to strong for 5.7 due to the 45MM cannon being absurd against tanks always one tapping
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MSC should be 10.0.
It never had composite so remove it and make it a monster glass canon
AMX-32: 9.7 => 9.3
Too slow and clunky for that BR range to be honest.
It used to be 9.3, I’m not sure why it was put on a higher BR bracket.
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Ja37DI would also benefit from this as well as from getting its historical digital RWR (also found on gripen)
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Why is the Tornado F3/ADV being moved down a rank? I put an talisman on it is because it being at Rank 8. I get vehicle got their BR moved around and rank adjusted as the tech tree change but why is this being down graded? This feels like a scame. Do you refund the talisman??
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Mig 25 11.0- 11.3/ 11.7
Faces flare-less jets. Jets with no RWR/ blind to J-band. Needs removing from the game
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F-20A
ARB 12.3-12.0
6 9L, or 2 9L/2 7F looks ridiculous, especially when you get to 13.3, an airplane with missiles without noise protection and two sparrows meets such as mk2/ mkk.
Or add double pylons under 7f (balance value)
So what is the logic of Prince of Wales being put to 8.0 when it’s practically nothing going for it at 7.7 except maybe survivability?
Scharnhorst has astronomically better survivability, is 7.3 and at least has oppressive fire rate.
American dreads have 35.6s with better armor penetration at 7.0
The Prince of Wales’ secondaries don’t even fire where you aim.
Edit
It is straight up insane that you would bump this ship, with some of the single worst shells of her tier, to 8.0 instead of dropping her to 7.3 where she can actually shine to some degree
Edit 2
American dreads also have triple the secondaries, have a far faster firerate and just do more than PoW at lower battle ratings. The logic is astounding to me.
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I’m aware, but in practice, almost nobody will use it as such in WT due to how rewarding it is to play it as LT/TD. I was more suggesting the vehicle should just generally be changed to the regular spawn point pool as a whole.
J35XS Ground RB 10.7 → 10.3
when its Air RB br got changed from 10.7 → 10.3 i think the ground br was forgotten
it doesnt do anything special in ground battles
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Doesn’t it lack the best APFSDS the 9040C get tho ?
I’d say this is a pretty good differentiator to not consider it a 9040C backup
Yeah lets move the tanks with laughably bad gun handling, underperforming shell, zero survivability and armor and unusable cqb sights even higher, great idea. You are literally insane if you think it should have the same BR as tanks like the M1A2
F-111C 11.7–>11.3 (GRB)
???
okay let me get this straight, instead of buffing this thing or doing literally anything to make it more competitive you’re going to move it down to 11.3? There isn’t a single British ground vehicle from 11.0-11.3 so what exactly is even the point of moving this thing down??? Who is this change for???
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Bucc S.2B
Air RB
10.7 → 10.3
Slightly faster than A-10A or Su-25K, but has no guns, is more a counterpart to them than A-6E, AMX, Hawk 200, Sea Harrier FRS.1(e)
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