I don’t disagree, the KV-1E and B should have gone up ages ago.
ZiS-5 can be almost invulnerable to Jpz IV when angling, which has the same gun as the 3.3 Marder
I don’t think gaijin is gonna read through a thousand comments. I think they are just gonna pick a few out of this stuff and forget everything else mentioned.
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They never did,… i don’t see what’s new,…
Even with the last conducted survey and plans from mid July,… i don’t see much changes in games,… because they’re either corrected by Gaijin afterwards or are purely communication skills.
The 2 most problems of the Devs / Community:
→ Community doesn’t know what they want ←
As you see today, many people will say things one way, and others people will say otherwise.
The problem is global, yet people thinks for themselves.
→ Devs is not taking us into account ←
It have required a Steam review Bombing for them to do little changes for us, and not for them.
What will it require for Gaijin to understand that the game is sick of their Biased/bullshit solution?
A total Blocus of players, to not play the game anymore?
See how this will bring us → Gaijin closing game.
The problem is then impossible to solve.
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You forgot to push up MiG-21’s to their counterparts (MiG-21F-13/PFM to 10.0–> MiG-21 SPS-K and similar to 10.3 → MiG-21MF/SMT 10.7 bare minimum → MiG-21bis and similar 11.0/11.3)
64A has 16 AGM-114s, ATAS, and thermals.
It’s obvious you’re just trying to provoke, AKA troll, NATO mains with your attempt to call inferior Russian equipment the opposite of what it is.
some vehicles were reconsidered after feedback, but I agree that they ignored undertiered premiums/event- or squadron vehicles.
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The strengths of the M26 are relative. It has thicker armor but fights tanks with better guns. The Panther mantlet is trolly as hell.
I agree the M26 is better but it has to be taken into the context of what it is and what it fights.
Ka-50 have 12 Vikr multipurpose missile, much more adapted to any situation since you don’t have to switch for AAM before locking up then firing.
You can simply aim and fire.
Besides that,
Ka-50 have 40 unguided rockets with CCIP + 12 AT/AAGM
AH-64D have ATAS OR Countermeasures + 16 ATGM
Therefore,… in terms of capability:
Ka-50 can destroy 12 vehicules of any type + 4 ground vehicules (10 rockets per kills is generous)
AH-64D can only destroy 4 Air target + 16 Tanks
Also, for an aircraft:
ATAS are decoyable
VIHKR are not decoyable
→ both are dodgeable anyway, but decoying it is faster than dodging it
AFAIK, the 90mm M3 could penetrate the Panther upper front plate IRL, but not in game.
Here’s a simulation of T33 shot vs a Panther at 200m: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDjpFvsP5Ig
And tanks in real life are made to fulfill different roles than in War Thunder, for the M26 this was mainly infantry support. You don’t need the best armor or best gun for this.
As far as video games go, the Panther is definitely more “meta” than M26. Maintenance, crew comfort, etc, isn’t modeled, only the “sexy” stats such as big gun, thick armor etc. (which the Panther shines in)
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“Some” since 2013,… those balances feedback permitted to change around 200 vehicules that were not in preliminary list,… some of which were automatically returned to old BR 6 months later.
Well yes. The comparison I was making was one of simply comparing the two tanks without regards for BR.
I agree but you missed the F4EJ (not kai) it’s a poor preforming Phantom it should be 10.7 like the German one or doesn’t have all aspect doesn’t have 7e2s or Agile eagle package (Pretty much ability to use combat flaps and allows you to actually have a chance in turning around before anything else at your br does) in full uptier it is just food for migs and f16s in down tiers its in the same boat as the German one but has radar missiles remove the radar missiles and it’s exactly like the German one they really need to do this for balance purposes
It’s amazing how you guys at Gaijin consistently can make changes to the game that are 10% good or less but 90% abhorrently bad for the game, ignore the community entirely, and push it through anyway. Changes like this are why the game balance is so abhorrently bad.
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That’s fair.
I think the current M26 and current Panther A/G have pros and cons that offset. The M26 may be worth a .3 BR bump but not a .7 BR bump.
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pls leave m4a1(76) on 4.7
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The M26 has overall more armor than the Panther and the gun is much more capable.
90mm APHE deals way more damage, APCR allows it to penetrate tanks the Panther can’t and it can actually reverse out of the way of getting smacked by a 122mm, unlike the Panther.
The gun depression, turret armor and reverse speed make it excellent for playing hull down.
It can fire smoke shells and has a .50cal that messes up planes and M18s.
There’s practically no situation where the Panther will perform better than the M26.
Maybe a Panther is better at not getting killed through the UFP compared to a T25, but then again it loses in getting out of trouble and getting into a firing position with a reverse gear.
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Yes, and in addition to this, the game (correctly) makes the really powerful guns, especially the 128, meet stuff where expecting to just point and click is pure fantasy. If you’re playing 4.3 you can expect to lolpen a medium with a derp tank destroyer, at 6.7 several medium tanks have enough frontal armour to survive Jagdtiger shots if the user aims center mass. That’s without getting into the heavily armoured opponents.
I really like that about that BR, precisely because it isn’t point and click, unless you’re in a downtier.
Woah man. I love that you actually went out and did this. Now I want to start doing it with the vehicles I use too.
EDIT:
Agreed, I’d leave it where it is.
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Is gaijin even looking at higher tier anything for Russia in the changes? Nothing about the KA-50 or 52, nothing about the 279, and nothing about the IS-7. This is ridiculous.
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The Panthers armor is more effective against what it faces than the M26’s armor against what it faces. The Panther’s gun is more effective against what it faces than the M26’s gun against what it faces. The Panther gets its proper ammunition and that ammunition functions as intended. The M26 doesn’t get its proper ammunition and the ammunition it does have doesn’t function as intended.
The pros of the M26 are minimal in the context of the game. Certainly not worth .7 BR difference. If Gaijin corrects the M26, then we could consider a .7 BR gap.
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