Planned Battle Rating changes for the month of October

Now IS-3 need move to 7.3 yes or yes.

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I’m not in agreement with the T69 II G increase in RB battle rating to 9.0.
The T55 AMD1 and the T55 AM1 are very similar if not better vehicles and they sit at 8.7.
Especially the AMD1 which has a hard kill APS at such a low BR.

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Hi

I bought the Shot kal Dalet from Israel some time ago when it was 8.3 or 8.7 where the tank was decent and fun to play but it got moved up to 9.0 a few updates ago because it got Gen 1 thermals and i think the Tank is not right for this br. It has pretty bad mobility because it is a Centurion and M111 which is bad compared to other darts from 9.0 to 10.0. It also has a long reload and the armor of an 8.0 tank with ERA on. In a full uptier your armor gets you nowhere and you are a slow free kill. I just wanted to point out that the 8.7 Shot kal Gimel without Thermals has better armor so please put it back to 8.7 and if you need remove the thermals again. The Gen 1 thermals arent even that good so you could remove it. The Tank is not fun to play anymore for me, maybe i get some agreement.

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Thats kinda little to call a nerf, at least IMO, making penetration lower or taking away weaponry, modules, no matter if its historical or not is a nerf.

Why are all the NATO Helis moved but not the Russian ones? Why is the Ka-50 still at 11.0?
The YAH-64 has no AA missiles and also no flares - how can it be on the same BR as it?
All the Russian 11.0 Helis should also go up to 11.3.

AHS and AH-64A are also not as strong as the Ka-50.

The Hellfire B’s dont even have tandem charges…

Edit: After checking, only the Ka-50 should move up and not all 11.0 (Mi28N in that case).

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Fair, but you dont neceseraly need to have radar missiles as games mostly form into a furball and are led mostly on deck just because of radar meta, the only vehicles in current state that i see climbing are suicidal Su-25bm’s, F-14’s to shoot all their phoenixes and an ocasional MiG-29 or F-16.

Because I’ve been thinking, if there is a barrier at some br’s, aircraft that would struggle in full uptier and dominate if undertiered, like F4-EJ Kai and somewhat MiG-23’s, those aircraft might see less full uptiers at which they would struggle and stay somewhat balanced, since you cant simply balance everything perfectly without some drastic changes being implemented

Yeah it’s just unfortunate that it’s forced to play only one way because of radar missiles, especially when the bis is slower than 90% of the aircraft it faces and R-60M/MKs would chase a wet fart over an afterburning enemy

some of these are good such as vidar going up, but some others like the IS-2 (1944)s and tiger II(p) dont make much sense in my opinion. as the Tiger 2p is now the same BR as the 2H when the 2p has a MUCH weaker turret. and the IS2s are now on the same level as Tiger2s and M26e5, with the IS-3 being only .3 BR above them the IS-2. it also works to undo the last batch of BR changes that as designed to separate cold war and ww2 tanks. personally not really a fan of most of these changes.

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Its not slower, it just has huge speed bleed because of delta wing, right now every bis shares the same br with J7d which is even slower, barely managing 1.04 mach on deck while bis can do 1.10 and a bit above but at risk of breaking a wing or both. Just keep your speed, don’t do sharp turns to often and you will be good, and in terms of missiles, I still use r13’s as they have bit more range, not too much but sometimes and that bit can be a decider whether youre gonna destroy someone.

Char 25T should also receive M431 (HEAT-FS), after all, it uses the same 90mm cannon that the M47. AMX-13-90 (7.7) already has HEAT-FS with 5s reload.

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Sure Gaijin, only thing you forgot about both jumbos, where in the world you guys think Tiger E should be higher br than KV220???

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Yeah, that’s really baffling too.

VIDAR is effective all the way to 11.7, yet it remains fighting ww2 vehicles, ka-50 remains at its disgustingly low br, 2s38 is still undertiered when compared to its autocannon adversaries

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Soviet CAS at 9.3/9.7 is not good enough to pickup the slack for Su-25’s going up to 10.3 in your proposed change. Need something in the middle there.

The 76mm Jumbo is already 6.3. Are you honestly implying it should be 6.7?

Oh no, the Tiger I has to fight IS-3s. We should make the inferior armed Jumbo 76 fight T-54s because that’s fair.

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To be hones Hellcat on your 3 isn’t a bad thing, you can still swing the tank and whack the petulant child. Anything that pops up around your 6 is the issue. Yeah you might not kill the guy you want, however a good Hellcat is a dead Hellcat.

Even as a Soviet Main myself I am also frustrated by this, even though the Soviet tanks ware far more suited for this.

I haven’t really gone through the thread much after since it was posted and 1,000+ responses trying to find yours and sifting through some of the shit like PT-76B 6.0 wheb is really tiresome.

Ok this makes more sense tbh I was just waking up so I probably didn’t read it right, my apologies.

Oh yeah fuck that thing, the PT came to my mind first cause of the comments I have seen on it this morning, own it don’t play it cause of how filthy it is.

The side armor is good, though barrel track torture usually does the job. However I rarely see and or fight these things, which is also why I say that the T-95 isn’t as big of a threat.

I disagree with you on this one almost completely, yeah the Jagdpanther is really good, however its casemate status makes it less of an all rounder that the Tiger 1 is. The Tiger imo has more advantages one of them being the smaller stature than the JP. While yeah the Long 8.8 can go through the IS-3 frontally, the Tiger 1 can deal with it. Even if it is side on, sure it will be more work but that is uptiers for you.

Sorry about that, I am an unapologetic asshat like 70% of the time.

In hindsight, yeah I was a bit tooo rash, however I was trying to make it for those who aren’t aware or just choose not to listen. My post was also for a wider audience not just you. I also wasn’t trying to throw stats around, as that does nothing but skew results. I have negative KDs in vehicles I shouldn’t really have them in, mostly due to me playing heavily aggressively.

Wasn’t intended to be directed at you. Again, looking through some of your posts you def aren’t the average German Main, you are def capable.

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Tiger 1s should be 5.7 not 6.0 and Tiger 2s should be 6.3 and 6.7 and panthers should stay at the same br and wheres the russian helis br changes.

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increasing the BR of Vidar is fine (already had enough sales?)
BC and AMX BR increase are fine too i guess, but why is the Somua missing there?

Tiger I ausf. E and Panthers now can meet the IS-3, M46… and other cold war tanks. Didn’t you just proudly post that you follow the roadmap and wanted to increase the gap between WWII and Cold war tanks?

Did any human had oversight over the changes or was it done automatically?

What about the object 279… should be 9.0 atleast …

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I see I must have skipped over that, my apologies. Still the reload on those things is too damn long.