I appreciate the Reload buff for the Merkava, but can you correct its weight and make the armor actually great? It can’t stop 9.3 shells, why is it even at 12.0?
What about the Harrier GR.7? A plane that also has 4 AIM-9Ms. It may be faster, It may be more maneuverable at high speed, but its speed bleed will ensure it is down and out of the fight after a few turns. It may have a 700 flares vs the A-10Cs 480, but consider that the Harrier’s flares are from BOL pods, which were nerfed into the ground a while ago, not to mention it runs far hotter. It has to work hard to flare anything, even AIM-9Gs.
The Harrier sits at 12.3 and can only see the A-10C in a full downtier. In the right hands, the A-10C can put up a very good fight against the Harrier, and even win.
Or what about Su-25SM3? a plane with comparable performance, less ordnance, only 2 gate-width R-73’s which are leagues worse than the A-10C’s 4 AIM-9Ms with tracking suspension above roughly 1.5KM?
The Su-25SM3 sits at 12.3, and can only see the A-10C in a full downtier. The A-10C can handily beat the Su-25SM3 in most situations.
And what about the F-104J. A flare-less plane with a generous load of 6 AIM-9Ps that is ultimately worthless against something like the A-10C with it’s low heat signature and overwhelming flare count. The F-104’s maneuverability means that as long as the A-10 pilot can simply dodge any attack and return with a 9M deflection shot. That is of course assuming the the A-10 doesn’t just 9M him the moment the F-104 enters his sphere of influence.
The F-104J sits at 10.3 and is uptiered all the time. It’s rare for it to not encounter an A-10C. It has zero hope of winning that fight unless the A-10C pilot is severely incompetent.
The A-10C is not balanced for a strike craft in this game. Not in the slightest. it belongs at 12.3 with the Harrier GR.7 and the Su-25SM3. They are not meant to be good at A2A.
ARB, F-104S and TAF 11.3 > 11.3, give AIM-9P-4s from F-5 FCU, because its not the fastest thing around, and all aspect missiles should be added long time ago
FGR2/FG1 also have a better RWR and 30 more CMs over the F4JUK(UK) as well as the better engines.
All 3 British phantoms need to go down to 11.7. they simply don’t have the loadout or flight performance to cope with dealing with 13.0s or even really 12.7s.
(4x 9Gs and 4x Skyflash DFs with a rather bad PD radar these days. Gun only via gunpod)
Even compared to other F4s like the F4S they are totally outmatched. Something like the AMX should be able to deal with them without much issue if played right, but a subsonic attacker shouldn’t really be compared to a supersonic interceptor
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Gaijin… Move top tier air to 14.0… please
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I think it’s awesome where it is. But hey if you want I won’t stop you from suggesting a BR lowering. (Also screw that “Italy suffers” guy) but I think since it’s top speed is 660MPH-ish 4 missiles (dogwater) and 4 really good cannons and decent maneuvebility makes it worthwhile in its BR. Single-handedly my FAVORITE British jet to dogfight with.
Just every single time I’ve tried to play it. It’s just faced a wall of 9.0/9.3s and no matter what I try. I can’t seem to outrun or out fight most of the 8.0/8.3s like the F86
Also for me, I rarely jet the javelin above 500kt which is roughly 500mph so how the hell are you going faster than something like the sea vixen
I’ve gotten 2 aces with it (5 kill games)
Anyways man, I’m going to catch some ZZZs it’s late. Make sure to check that PM I sent you.
Ground realistic battle, Pantsir S-1, 11.7->12.0
I did understand that we need to decompress the BR of the ground battle and I would like to welcome it to expand into 12.0. However, in that case, the BR of the SPAA should also decompress, too. Pantsir is one of the good example, since it was known that 10.7 aircraft such as A10 and A6E already had struggle to deal with pantsir, decompressing its BR will be helpful for 10.7 line ups.
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Ground needs more than just a .3 BR increase, it should go to at least 12.7 because you guys never decompress it.
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arbitrary rules dont matter and gaijin doesnt follow any arbitrary rules to a T regardless
yeah saying screw me doesnt change the fact its not worth downtiering because compression is bad by default.
1 of the phantoms (not the junk) should get 9Ls and remain 12.0
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Ground realistic battles, VT-4A1, 11.7 > 11.3.
Out of Chinese top tier vehicles (which all need either remodeling or BR decrease) the VT4A1 is the most worst off. It stands no chance against the likes of Leopard 2A7 or T-90M, but is even worse than ZTZ99A or WZ1001. It has very weak armour paired with worse mobility and maneuverability than other Chinese top-tier tanks. Also, the classic Gaijin-given traits of Chinese top tier: horrible penetration of 577mm, and the worst reload speed of 7.1 seconds.
This tank has NO redeeming qualities that justify it being moved up in BR.
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It comes down to the speed of those jets is better. The A10C is just a sitting duck to anyone that knows how to play. Once spotted you can maneuver away before it can get close enough to use its missile. Maybe the su25sm3 could drop down in br tho. I don’t see a lot of those being played. Maybe that’s why.
Also take into consideration a jet moving at 600kph on the deck is going to limit the speed and distance the missile can travel compared to on the something like the gr7 at 1100kph.
And the f104J shouldn’t be at that br. That jet sucks without flare since it cant really out maneuver and aim9e.
Gaijin expand max BR higher 13.7 for fighter aircraft top tier in the january 2025. my guess
But might increase to 14.3 becuase 14.0 not enough
In an ideal world
All Gamemodes, TAM 2C, 10.0 > 10.3, FASTER RELOAD
Either keep it at 10.0 or make the reload faster (7.7s → 6.9) with fully upgraded crew and place it at 10.3 as planned…
The tam 2c is a light vehicle with not much to speak of armour and has a 7.7 second full crew reload, which is pretty slow when compared to the likes of others T72s, T90s, All chinese vehicles have 7.1 second reload, And then there are t80s with 6.5s reload…
A very similiar vehicle is the swedish premium cv90105. It has a 5s reload. Everything else is the same except it does not have dm 63 and fires dm33. That should not be the difference between a 5s reload and a 7.7 second reload.
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