Gaijin, you have GOT to decompress the Char 25T and J6K1. Both are way overtiered.
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THIS PLEASE, I know it’s not probably historical or anything, but seriously just because it’d be cool to see. It’d almost be like an HSTV-L alternative in my opinion, higher spall, longer reload, and no IRST, but M900 to go BRR.
Air Realistic, J7D, 11.0>10.7. Compared with mig21bis, J7D lacks omnidirectional infrared missiles and has lower engine horsepower.
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ARB/ASB F-4J (UK) Phantom II 12.0 > 11.3
This thing will be facing flankers in sim battles and it stands no chance. it can already face the mig-29 which curb stomps it without a second thought. The radar only has SRC and PDV HDN modes, which make it hard to acquire a lock sometimes. At the same time, aircraft equipped with the R-27ER missile and a PD radar can lock me up from 40km, launch at 30, and i cant do anything about it except attempt to evade. Plus this change would make the premium phantom on tier with the tech tree phantom that has the same * if not a little better* stat card and missiles. there’s no reason for this thing to be 12.0
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Aim-9M missiles at that tier is criminal, and unfair.
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Air Realistic Battles, F8U-2 . 10.0 > 10.7.
If the A-5C that is a transonic strike aircraft goes to 10.7 with only 2 rear aspect IR missles, there’s literally no reason on why a supersonic fighter, with way more flares, double the missles, better handling, better guns and better flight performances to stay at a BR in which it rains hell on even flareless subsonics.
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SU-25SM3 with 2 R-73’s is 12.3 without HMD, this thing has no business being 11.3. You’re coping
Played 100 battles in the J7E since update, only got hit by one aim9m.
Stay aware of the A10C and you wont get hit by it. Keep in mind the aim9m is only really flare resistant in rear aspect.
No way, tell me a good reason on why something the super etendard or the AMX should face a supersonic SARHs flinging bus that the the phantom is. The F4JUNK is the worst one and is surely at a dodgy BR but it’s still usable.
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The Panstir should be on this list, needs to be at the top
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its smokeless, and easy to miss when youre busy with other things. plus in Simulator this thing is just a griefing aircraft, you cant tell the difference between A and C, plus 4 9M’s is insane. it needs to go up, the A-10 can handle it easily with the amount of countermeasures and low speed performance.
the Phantom FGR.2 is at 11.3, and has the same abilities as the premium phantom, same missiles, same speed (actually a little better), same turn rate, etc
The F8U-2 needs to go up to 10.3 minimum, honestly 10.7 would be a balanced BR for it but even a 0.3 increase would help the health of jet tiers. Currently, the F8U almost completely outperforms every other fighter aircraft in every category at 10.0, let alone 9.0 aircraft which have no hope of defeating it. It is faster, more maneuverable, has more thrust, and has better missiles than most of it’s competition. The few planes that is does not have every advantage against it still outperforms massively in other aspects. For it’s BR, the F8U-2 might be the best aircraft in the entire game.
The J7E is also absolutely unreal at 11.0. It’s insane P/W ratio combined with the PL5s make it formidable at 11.3 and it has no business being 11.0.
The F8F-1 is already overpowered at 5.0 with the recent thermodynamics changes and does not deserve to be facing 3.7 aircraft. Additionally, the F5C going down to 10.7 is also a problem. Just because new players are picking it up as a premium and doing poorly in it does not mean that the F5C, which has very strong rate-fighting capabilities and very responsive FM for it’s BR, should be fighting 9.7 aircraft which it outperforms completely.
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Average US mains intelligence level:
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I can see the change for Sim battles, not AirRB tho.
F4S should go down to 11.3 because it may always be upteir to 12.7
GRB PANTSIR S1 11.7>12.0
Pantisir shouldn’t stay at 11.7, since helicopters’ rb are raised, SPAA’s should be raised too, or no one can play heli at 10.7 any more. What’s more, many countries don’t have 10.7 CAS plane, like England or China. Jaguar GR.1A or A5L doesn’t have any effective way to fight against Pantisir S1, they only have 2 laser guided bombs.
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Completely agree
I appreciate the Reload buff for the Merkava, but can you correct its weight and make the armor actually great? It can’t stop 9.3 shells, why is it even at 12.0?
What about the Harrier GR.7? A plane that also has 4 AIM-9Ms. It may be faster, It may be more maneuverable at high speed, but its speed bleed will ensure it is down and out of the fight after a few turns. It may have a 700 flares vs the A-10Cs 480, but consider that the Harrier’s flares are from BOL pods, which were nerfed into the ground a while ago, not to mention it runs far hotter. It has to work hard to flare anything, even AIM-9Gs.
The Harrier sits at 12.3 and can only see the A-10C in a full downtier. In the right hands, the A-10C can put up a very good fight against the Harrier, and even win.
Or what about Su-25SM3? a plane with comparable performance, less ordnance, only 2 gate-width R-73’s which are leagues worse than the A-10C’s 4 AIM-9Ms with tracking suspension above roughly 1.5KM?
The Su-25SM3 sits at 12.3, and can only see the A-10C in a full downtier. The A-10C can handily beat the Su-25SM3 in most situations.
And what about the F-104J. A flare-less plane with a generous load of 6 AIM-9Ps that is ultimately worthless against something like the A-10C with it’s low heat signature and overwhelming flare count. The F-104’s maneuverability means that as long as the A-10 pilot can simply dodge any attack and return with a 9M deflection shot. That is of course assuming the the A-10 doesn’t just 9M him the moment the F-104 enters his sphere of influence.
The F-104J sits at 10.3 and is uptiered all the time. It’s rare for it to not encounter an A-10C. It has zero hope of winning that fight unless the A-10C pilot is severely incompetent.
The A-10C is not balanced for a strike craft in this game. Not in the slightest. it belongs at 12.3 with the Harrier GR.7 and the Su-25SM3. They are not meant to be good at A2A.