Are you saying the MiG-29A should get R-73?
Maybe they could make the MiG-29S (9-13S) that’s BR 13.0 and equipped
with the R-73, R-73E, R-27ER, and with x192 Countermeasures.
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The MiG-29S has up to 192 flares? Damn thats a lot.
get R-73, and remove R-27ER. then it will become historical
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WCphmoi43iyc
Here’s issue. Please, everyone. Support this.
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With the BR changes coming up now is the time to bring this up
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With the Flanker at 13.0, we need this more than ever + the FM correction
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They are not completely historically accurate ???
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This bouta be an event aircraft watch
Don’t even bother, he just likes to disagree
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This Would be a great counterargument, except for the fact that the ER’s got placed on the Mig-29, which arguably changed the way the aircraft was played more than the 73 ever would have. It turned the Close in turnfighter to a long range missile jouster.
Not to mention the Elephant in the room
The Addition of the ER’s caused the jets performance to go up SO MUCH that gaijin nutered its airframe as a response, permanently altering the aircrafts intended playstyle just to compensate for a missile.
The Exact thing you are advocating against
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@Prestonesto10
R-73s would make the aircraft 13.0 - 13.3, we already see this with Mig-29G.
R-27ERs made the Mig-29 12.7 from 12.3.
That’s the difference.
Gaijin doesn’t change airframes for balance, ever. Next you’ll say Eagle Dynamics balances aircraft by changing airframes in DCS.
Oh but they very much do, not in the way people think. Gaijin Holds Different aircraft to different levels of Scrutiny and accuracy. The mig-29 is a perfect example of this, as it is being held to a higher standard of realism than most 3/4th gen jets in war thunder, and it has been kept that way even after they have refused to do the same to many other jets.
For a better understanding of what i’m talking about, I’d go read this: Many top tier aircraft are overperforming in energy retention
by Giovanex05, He can explain it better than i can.
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Thanks for proving they don’t.
Not only that but the thing you linked to is just a showcase of alleged inaccuracies which has nothing to do with your claim.
Mig-29 performs extremely well.
The 29 performs horridly, I believe it’s missing some nose authority and it bleeds speed way too quickly.
“Gaijin doesn’t change airframes for balance, ever.”
Also that’s just… wrong lol.
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@The_Bishop
The Mig-29 bleeds as much if not less speed than an F-16C currently, which is to peoples’ knowledge accurate.
Afterburning fuel consumption is accurate, flight performance is within charts.
What now that Su-27s were all fixed people are trying to claim Mig-29 can out-dogfight Rafale and F-16A?
Add R-73 to 9.12 and 9.13
Remove R-27ER from 9.12 and 9.13
Leave at 12.7
And maybe un-nerf the FM . At 12.7 having only 2 useful missiles is unacceptable.
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R-60M + gimped R-27R against overperforming AIM-7F is a good Iraqi air force simulator.
Problem for this proposal is the missiles in question are gimped, R-60 can never pull 30G, and R-27R is missing kinetic range.
Well and the flight model is nerfed.
And the AIM-7F/M have much more impulse than the real missile does at 20,000 feet.
And they’re overperforming.
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