Simply put, gaijin wants trustable data since they are the ones making changes. You are not making changes so you don’t need the privilege of internal statistics.
Wow, Leopard 2A7V/122s is still 11.7? Clearly they should go to 12.0
To offer my thoughts, the move to make air 12.7 is great! But now they should also make ground 12.0! Especially with new vehicles such as the 2A7 that are absolutely superior to ever other tank in game.
Some complaints:
T20 should stay at 6.0, the tank is a glass cannon, and it’s gun isn’t even that impressive at its own BR.
J-8F shouldn’t move up to 12.0, as it’s still outclassed by many 12.0 jets such as the F-16A and Mig-29, and offers no advantage, all while lacking BVR capabilities still.
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Finally, 12.7 on air, can we now finally get su27 locking over 10km range possible.
And why in he**, a plane that can lock and has ok radar missiles is staying in 12.3 ?
Dear Gaijin,
as a Françias tank player,I am very very very confused about the new plan of moving these tanks’ br ,including SOUMA,AMX,Char and etc,from 7.7 up to 8.0,it is totally incomprehensible and unbearable for us Françias tank players.
Not to mention their relatively weak Armor and APC cannonball when they are confronted with tanks like t55,bmp2 or TAM directly,if so,the originally characteristic Autoloader in the same br is just like a JOKE and the absence of Stabilizer makes them even harder to fight back in encountering combats.In other words,new br means that there would be no difference between the originally most intersting and characteristic Françias tanks and Rubbish.Françias tanks’ environment is worse and worse.I suggest You had better Cancel,Cease,Delete all the Françias Tanks early so that there would not be no France tank players in the game one day.
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Debatable. 4x is certainly exaggerated: Remember that the front nozzles are in front of the combustion chamber and thus deliver much colder air than the rear ones.
On the contrary one may even argue that the cold air flow from the front nozzles somewhat shield the hot exhaust from the hot rear nozzles a bit.
In the end we’d have to trust official info on this, everything else is speculation.
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Who knows it’s not fake info or manipulated then?
I wonder what’s the reason of Char25t, somua SM, AMX 50 TO90 to be moved to 8.0… I rly want to see how “great” 200mm aphe penetration without stab or improved LRF is on 8.7 vs T-55AM-1 or T-62 etc.
Same story with T-20. What makes it 6.3? T-20 is similar to Sherman 76 from 5.7 xd
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While offencive capabilitys are strong, the planes are far from perfect. If you have problems with it, that basic skill issue.
If just 1 engine is destroyed they have around 0.2m/sec climb and if more is damaged you will most certainly crash. Its slow (250-300km/h on average) with no back gunner and can be catched up by even russian biplanes.
Firepower is really the only thing that speaks for it. And in an uptier to 3.3 it is hoplelessly outclassed with the powerincrease. Both should be at 2.0.
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SuperTEMP is fine,the only time it doesnt hit is when target is way above you as it hard pulls in beggining and bleeds all energy on climbing and then doesnt have enough left to maneuver into the target even when fired at 10km headon and closing,at around 5 it hits tho. Was playing ADV again and usually had 3 kills out of 4 SuperTEMPs,where the one failed cause they notched and i lost lock or did the thing i mentioned above.
Please read everything I said. I want a broad decompression to at least 13.7. A-10 to 11.0 is a good start.
To add to that. A-10 is a dedicated STRIKE plane. It is not meant to compete with dedicated FIGHTERS and it should not be able to demolish them easily. The fact that it is not competetive in ARB is not a problem with high BR, but with the structure of the mode itself, which favors fighter meta. You can´t go around and shoehorn dedicated attackers into fighter roles, that´s just horrible way to approach balancing of this game.
That said all Su-25 should not be below 11.3.
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Centurion mk 3 and all derivatives should be moved back down to 7.3 they are currently overtiered at 7.7. They are very exploitatable with the amount of weakspots they have coupled with the front ammo rack makes for easy one shots.
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I’m a Zero ace and I love doing turn figth to the spitfires, they’re the only ones I have fun with haha
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The strela needs to be moved up further. It performs basically as good as the type 81 but will now sit 1.3br below it. In no way is that balanced.
And please bring the OTOMATIC down in br. That thing is insufferable at 11.3
Because then we have to have mixed match making permanently.
No more nation vs nation in War Thunder ever again if that data ever becomes public.
Supporting public data is supporting permanent mixed match making.
How do you know the data they would release is not fake info or manipulated anyway? It would not make any difference with this type of thinking.
Don’t forget Tunguska also gets upgraded with Gen 2 thermals and also has the ability to fire ALL missiles it has without reloading… vs the FlaRakPz having to wait for its missile to fly for twenty seconds and self destruct on a miss ~BEFORE IT EVEN STARTS RELOADING~ (same flaw that kills the FlaRakRad)
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While it will be cool to use M833 on the AGS, I wish Gaijin would consider taking a look at the XM-8 instead. I feel like giving the XM-8 its M900 shell and level 2 armor kit at 11.0-11.3 would make it more unique and exciting to play. Considering it is the final product of the AGS competition I think it deserves more attention.
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I mean it really does
Radar in 4EJ is useless to fire Sparrow. If GJ can add M833 for AGS to up BR why they cannot remove Sparrow and down it br
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