Planned Battle Rating changes for January 2024

Having no HMD doesn’t justify it not moving up
Also M4K doesn’t have HMD and has worse missiles worse performance but it moved up

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Skill issue if You’re getting bullied by 11.3 in an 11.0

weirdly enough only the turm 3 has stab while all oscillating turrets are stabilised and created exactly for that reason, yet, tank’s suspension bouncing like a rocking chair and gun depression/elevation gets worse during braking…
when a 60 ton MBT stops and rocking chair effect again, dagor engine need some adjusting or it make sense why they put up to be open (partially) as they don’t know where the bugs are…

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Of course not. If the Japan tech tree gets anything that is good, it can only last for a short time before it gets nerfed so hard that it is just another wasted vehicle in a never ending grind. Not to mention that no “minor” (japan is not a minor nation despite what gaijin says) nation can have better stuff than russia.

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Gaijin please look at some of the Italian vehicles as they are very underperforming such as g91 ys and sidam 25. I believe the sidam 25 should be 8.0 or even 7.7 as it doesn’t have a search radar like the gepard nor does it even have good penetration values. I know a vehicle almost identical to the sidam 25 ( m163) had br changes so why doesn’t the sidam 25. Also please move the OTOMATIC down to at least 10.7 I believe it would be a great br as it has slow velocity and is awful at 11.3 along with the fact the 2s38 is at 10 so why isnt the OTOMATIC.

I just don’t see why the 2s38 gets to be at 10.0 and the OTOMATIC has to be 11.3 when the only difference is a search radar which can be easily compensated for by moving the OTOMATIC to 10.7 or 10.3.

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God finally someone talking about the Pershing. The standard Pershing is just sad, it was rough when it was 6.3, then they uptiered it. It is a Panther with worse pen, and a-historically so, people keep telling Gaijin, T33 should pen a Panther’s UFP frontally. Historical stuff aside it is not fun where it is now, so either it needs to get better or go down.

You are also missing another major rough spot in the US tree, 9.3 and the MBT70, it is at 9.3, same as the AMX 30 Super, with no thermals, and a much, much worse round, it was nerfed to 285mm pen. It is incapable of fighting as an MBT at its tier. (Also the classic gaijin double standard, Minor buff to US tank, better move it up 0.7 br as a precaution, reduce a US tanks pen by 100mm, it’ll be fine where it is.)

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I thought so because I feel there is a big performance difference between 11.0 and 11.7 aircraft.

11.0 and 11.3 can still be managed with skills, that’s for sure.

One is Soviet the other is Italian

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its true sadly

Why did the J-8F go to 12.0? There is no PL-8B, but there is shit PL-8

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In my opinion, the Char 25t, AMX-50 (TO90/930), Somua SM and E.B.R. (1963) should stay at their current battle rating of 7.7 in realistic battles. All four will be unfairly outclassed by vehicles in the 8.7-9.0 range due to their lack of stabilizers, APDS/APFSDS rounds and laser rangefinders. At their current BR, the Char and AMX-50 are fast and have great turret traverse while being able to kill most opponents in a single shot with a 4 second reload, but in exchange they have weak armor, to the point that they can be pierced frontally by autocannons with 20mm HVAP via the gunner’s sight to instantly kill the gunner and commander, making them very easy to destroy frontally at 7.7 and 6.7 alike. They also lose the armor penetration needed to deal with heavy tanks such as the IS-6 and Maus commonly fought at their BR, and are forced to aim for weak spots frontally on medium tanks like the M60 and T-54, while their opponents aren’t. The Somua sacrifices a significant amount of forward and reverse mobility and neutral steering in exchange for additional armor, which is useful for deflecting poorly aimed shots. However, in downtiers its opponents can cut through the lower front plate and the front of the turret below the barrel at ranges of up to around 1000 meters without much issue, making it much easier to disable/kill than the aforementioned IS-6 and Maus. The E.B.R. features excellent mobility and 90mm HEAT rounds that allow it to cut through most tanks’ armor at 7.7 with ease, but in uptiers many of its opponents feature ERA and composite armor that drastically reduce the effectiveness of said rounds. However, without an autoloader, ATGMs, a laser rangefinder or a stabilizer, its ability to compete with the T114, BMP-1, Marder A1, and Ikv 91 at 7.7 is quite limited, let alone the Marder 1A3, Raketenautomat, Object 906 and U-SH 405 at 8.0.
Thank you for your time.

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With our current br compression moving vehicles like the T-72AV TURMS and Strela to 10.7 would be insane, but you are calling for a large decompression in general. I agree, we definitely need more decompression at these tiers, 9.3 is pure up tiers versus vehicles that are vastly better. Even a .3 be difference means way too much in these battle rating brackets which definitely isn’t fun. I don’t see why they cannot do this, with all the premiums from 9.3, 10.3, and now 11.3, the high tiers is the most populated part of ground rb by far.

FR! It’s like someone at gaijin has it out for the t20. at this point there’s NO WAY it’s cause of it’s “sTatIstIcs” Someone just hates the t20 and wants it to make it useless, that’s the only explanation.

Give the F5E the two extra missiles it was able to carry an I’m fine with it

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Gotta love how they’re slowly undoing the great BR changes they just made.

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I have the t20 and i can agree that its the most “mid” tank ive played in a while

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Do not think that can be done. It will be fine at 11.0, it has a subpar missile set but an airframe much better than most other 11.0 & 11.3s. Even still, everything should be decompressed more.

always has been

so does this mean m2000cs4 is not getting micas ? You know, because cs5 is going up but cs4 is staying in place?