Type 81 (C)
i think it would be more suitable if it was 10.3 because Type 81 (C) doesn’t have radar
The French 7.7 tanks should stay at 7.7, namely 25t, Somua SM, E.B.R. (1963), and AMX-50 (TO90/930)
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Ima be honnest, ags to 11.0 with m833 is hell
Im sorry but that shell is so bad at 11.0, just give the ags m900 like it had irl
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what about the israel Chaparral? it does not even get Photo contrast, along with having a caged seaker, meaning if a plane is moving sidways it is difficult to launch the missle. the only gimmick it gets is being smokeless, compared to the Type 81C which can’t be flared due to once a lock is achived with IR, and launched its FOV shrinks to .5 degrees, same with the strela. which is why it is almost impossible to flare, compared to the Chaparral.
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It has overall superior armament (M82 is comparable, if not arguably better than Pzgr.39/42, M304 APCR is actually good, and it gets a .50 cal), slightly faster turret traverse, much better turret armor, a bit worse hull front armor but much better side armor letting it angle. Forwards mobility is worse but the M26 can actually reverse.
Overall it’s better than the 6.0 Panthers.
It’s an M4A3 with much improved mobility and even slightly faster turret traverse yet you’re suggesting it to be the same BR as the M4A3. It was a pretty good tank at 6.0 since the mobility got buffed.
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Ok heres my actual suggestions, all for realistic mode:
Aircraft:
-A6M5: 5.0 → 4.7. its worse than the other A6M5s, it shouldnt be the same BR as them.
-A6M5 Ko: cancel 5.3 increase. Its already outclassed at 5.0, people refusing to just not turnfight it is not a valid reason to uptier it.
-A6M3 Mod 22 ko: 5.0 → 4.3 same reason as the A6M5 but even more outclassed, why is this even near the same BR as A6M5s?
-R2Y2 (all versions): 8.0 → 7.7. absurdly outclassed at 8.0, they need to go back to 7.7.
Vampire FB5: 8.0 → 7.7 same reason as the R2Y2.
SU-11: 7.3 → 7.7 this plane outclasses many 8.0s yet its somehow 7.3 still, why? Its bonkers OP.
Ju-288C: 6.0 → 6.3: please, please fix this plane. Any BR that can see 6.0 is unplayable in ARB because of this thing, and it has been going on for years now. Please fix it.
Tanks:
Strela 10M2: 9.3 → 10.0. its flat out better than the Type 93 and the Ozelot by a significant margin, 20g pull on its missiles. It should be higher than both.
2S38: 10.0 → 10.3. it really ruins the 10.0 bracket, its super powerful, super spammed, and needs to go up.
Type 87 RCV: 9.0 → 8.3. no stab, no thermals, no reverse speed, no ATGM, just a 25mm gun with barely enough pen to go through sides of MBTs. It should never have left 8.3. give it a lineup back with the Type 74C/STB/type 87.
Type 87 RCV(P): 7.7 → 7.3. no ATGM with the same gun as the Marder A1. They shouldnt be the same BR, plus 7.3 gives it a lineup to be used in.
STB-2: return HEAT round. type 74C is identical at the same BR, may as well give the STB its HEAT round back.
Type 81C: 10.0 → 10.7 (not 11.0). Super strong yes, but not 11.0 strong with no radar or guns. It also still really struggles to lock helis beyond ~4km, which at 11.0 basically all helis can sit further back than that. It wont make much a difference anyway since its only lineup is 11.0.
M26 Pershing: 6.7 → 6.3: It had no reason to go up, no one plays it anymore, so it should go back down.
Ill prob think of more later
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T25 isn’t an upgrade because it has massively downgraded mobility and no stabilizer. I’d rather take the T20 at 6.3 than the T25.
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Yeah if they don’t alot of people are gonna be mad as it doesn’t make any sense as what it seems like their are doing br decompression
The F15A and su27 are equivalents and should have the same br
You can aruge which one is better or one is terrible but they are rivals of each other and should be the same br so if in the next version of the BR changes it isn’t their then we must being it up loudly
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J-8F should not go to 12.0, it should stay at 11.7 or go down to 11.3.
Delta wing energy retention, not equipped with SARH, poor flare tolerance PL-8, PL-5B instead of PL-5C. i don’t understand how this fighter can raise its BR to 12.0. These need to be withdrawn.
If you say the J-8F is 12.0, I would use the F-16A MLU with the same BR. Please don’t give me crap.
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The ground BR change is the most out of touch thing I have ever f-ing seen
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F5E 10.7 → 11.0
That’s good, but 2 AIM9Js on 11.0 are intolerable weapons. It should get AIM9P4 or else it should remove R60M from other aircraft also in 11.0.
F14A 11.7 → 12.0 Get AIM9L
F14B 12.0 → 12.3 Get AIM9M
Both of which I think would be a good idea.
hate from sbvvd as always
Honestly it might be best to bite the bullet and bump GRB to 12.7 to keep it with the top tier jets.
Ah no im not seeing mig21bis over performing at 11.0
and that’s how you can kill french tech tree, TOA90 with 200 mm in 8.0.
Gaijin, please, put back all of these french vehicles with 200mm pen to 7.0 tops.
When i got the toa90 i was like, nice tank to play with and pair it with somua, now i simply want to refund them and sell it on marketplace and delete french tech tree from 7.0 till 9.0 and just grind it with top tier prem tank…
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either the M48A2GA2 to 8.0 or the Magach 5 to 8.3
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LOL @ the (no) SAV.
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What’s with the sweeping uptiers for France?
Also, how does the introduction of a slightly improved round for the AGS necessitate a preemptive .7 br increase? That round is still slightly sub par for tanks at 10.3, let alone 11.0?
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it’s because it has no HMD, the F-16C got moved to 12.7
