wtf are you on? the second best airframe is not gonna remain on 12,3 when everything else goes to 12,7
make up your mind.
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The Mirages going up is scandalous imo, the lack of missiles and their STILL nerfed state (ludicrous drag and still missing it’s real IRCCM performance for magics, as well as unable to pull it’s 50Gs with controlled constant use of dual plane) and lack of features (like missing MAWs) on top of a good but EASILY conterable FM they should NOT move up, at least not until MICA is introduced maybe in a nerfed state to at least get 6 missiles on the 5F…
Everyone knows that any F16/MIG29 with half a brain can delete any mirages by going for 2 circle engagements instead of 1 circles, on top of them being overperforming in 1 circle in the first place
No clue why its that rank mate
I still dont understand why gjn is using decimals and not simple integers. Why .0 .3 .7 ? Why not simply 1 , 2 , 3 … ?
Doesn’t it not hold as much missiles and have worse performance then a mig29
it goes up bc everything goes up, the ratio remains the same
Does this mean that if you take 12.7 aircraft to ground rb you will no longer face 11.3 enemies as it is today?
Probably not.
NO absolutly NOT since base MIG29 and no F16 bar the C and barak are moving out of 12.0
The Saggitario should not be 9.3, It’s only performant at 9.0 because people turn with you in that BR. Just like the A6M5 Ko. at 9.0 the Saggitario is already one of the slowest around, even in a downtier. To be honest i think the MiG-15bis is a better plane. The only reason planes like the saggitario, vampire, A6M5, ariete, etc are so ‘good’ is because bad players just keep turning with them. Only amplified by the fact that these planes are not on mainstream nations, so they don’t have a constant stream of bad players dragging down the statistics, like USA or USSR.
At 9.3 it would only be a much worse Ariete, which already struggles in uptiers against high G missile carriers and MiG-21SMT/MF.
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If you utilize the thrust vectoring engines properly, it can beat nearly any aircraft it comes across. And yes, it only has four missiles, but that doesn’t stop it from being a very good aircraft.
Also the G.91YS NEEDS to go down, it’s been entirelly unusable for so long at this point
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i dont hate the changes for Air , tho Sagitario 2 going us is just a meme ,
F-5C should go up from 10.3 > 10.7
Su-11 should go from 7.3 > 7.7
and XP-50 should go 4.0 > 4.3
those are some additional changes i would like to see
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Petition to lower mig 21s battle raiting.
Reasons:
9.7 is too high for it becouse in 9 out of 10 games it will go ageinst jets with aim9l and r60 which are 30g missiles.
No flares
Bad missiles (useless ageinst planes at this br becouse every plane except mig 21s has flares)
What about the high win rate of Sweden and Germany or at least their new tanks with win rates above 60% to almost 75%? The new tanks Leo 2A7, the Strv 122+ and other Leopard 2A5s who are drasticaly better then other tanks in mobility, armor and fire power
You are forgetting its speed and turn performance.
Even with only guns it would probably be 9.3/9.7 ish.
Whilst yes the F-104 and Lightning F6 are both 9.3. They are useless in any turn fight
But the Mig-21S specifically has SARH. that is not something to be ignored and 4x AAMs and not 2x Like the F-104 and F6
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The MiG-21S is fine. yes, it has no flares, but you are very fast, you should be able to outrun the missile, you also have a far more powerful engine than the J-7II or MiG-21F-13, with access to four R-3R missiles. You’re flying a MiG-21MF at 9.7 already, it’s fine.
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I’ve been waiting for the quarterly balance update. Could I get the chieftains reload buffed to 6 seconds aced? I’ve got good reasons too. Chieftains are under performing at their BR and this would bring them in line with the rest. Doing so would also give them their historical reload as well. Community Bug Reporting System
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So, I have few issues I’d like to bring up.
firstly, I believe the Strela Should be moved to 10.0 at minimum due to how effective it is. The missile ignores flares, pulls much better than stingers, and can out range stingers as well. 10.0
Second, I believe the type 81 (C) shouldn’t be moved to 11.0, while its very effective, at 11.0 it will be out ranged by aircraft with a significant range advantage and better classed SPAA’s. It should be moved to 10.3.
Next the French tanks SHOULD NOT be moved up to 8.0. They’ve slowly crept higher and higher in BR over the years and are at an okay spot currently. If you move them to 8.0 they will be facing a significant amount of ground vehicles with stabilizers, laser range finders, and APFSDS. They should stay at 7.7 and not be moved.
Next up the Italian Otomatic. This SPAA was incredible when it first came out in December of 2018. This was prior to missiles being in game. Now it sits at 11.3 and is constantly out ranged by any competent air player. The Otomatic NEEDS to go down in BR ASAP. It should be the same BR as the 2S38 at 10.0. the 2S38 does everything the Oto can but at 10.0 AND it’s not limited to 12 APFSDS rounds like the Oto. Take the Oto to 10.0 please.
Next, I would like to discuss the Italian Premium F104S-TAF. It’s very ineffective in both an air to air and bombing role in air RB. It sits at a BR of 11.0 where it meets planes with all aspect IR missiles and much better maneuverability, whereas it only has rear aspect AIM-9J’s and because of its lack of maneuverability, cannot get behind planes easily. This plane should be at 10.7 with the J35XS and Kifar Canard.
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Because of statistics they say…