Alright, if APU-60-2 is historical I’ve no problems with it. I still believe the SPS-K is 10.0 material without it, but if we both agree 10.0 with is good then there’s no point arguing about that any further.
After playing 5.3-7.0 for the last 3 hours, Gaijin I beg of you, uptier the goddamn P-51H and simultaneously downtier the Spitfire Mk.24 to 6.7. Who cares if the Mk.22 goes down or not just something to counter that goddamn plane, its leagues ahead of everything else with a prop.
A comparison between the P-51H and Spitfire Mk.24.
P-51: Faster, accelerates better, has a better Power-Weight ratio, better energy retention.
Spitfire: Turns better (on equal energy), has 4 Hispano’s (when they work they work), climbs better.
These are at best equal planes, now sure you could uprate the Spitfire Mk.24 to its 25PSI giving it an extra 700hp (LMAO), but the best option is to just downtier it and uptier the P-51H so neither are a menace to 5.3.
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For the most part I think the Br changes are fine. I do question the T95 and the T20 being moved up. Also the fact the M26 is still 6.7 and not 6.3 is ridiculous its worse in every way to the T26E5 and T26E1-1 there is no reason to play the standard Pershing anymore.
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accurate, in the right hands any zero is lethal but now at 5.0 it is a very uneven BR everything gets you on average 200km/h and everything resists more shots if we add that since the winds of change patch it no longer has the HEFI-T ammunition (high explosive fragmentation insendiary trespasser) in the 20 mm cannons the damage caused is greatly reduced, having to play it in 5.3 is going to be certain death
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Ok, so AMX M4 is going to 7.0, cool, so that means the reload is being corrected finally, right guys… right guys…
Please fix this if you’re gonna uptier it… don’t do my boy like that…
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Always been interested in playing the Griffon spits properly, but never seen the point due to how messed up that bracket is. Its a real shame. I just stick with the 5.7 spits for time being.
hot take everyone seam to complain that the strella is to strong and is true but instead of an increas br of it lowering the other aa seams more reasonable considering the immense power of cas
personal opinion is to have very strong aa for more naticion from lower tier so cas playes cant randomly destroy game relayably and umpunish (and start after years to fear aa and not simply consider them minor annoiance)
m162 all 7.3
m247 8.0
usa chaparall 8.7
lav-ad 10.0
all roland 1/3 platform 9.3
all trak only 35 mm oerlikon aa 7.7
ozelot 9.0
gepard 1A2 9.0
ZSU-37-2 7.3
ZSU-23-4 7.7 (all)
strela.10M2 9.3 or 9.7
falcon 8.0
ZA-35 8.3
strmer 9.0 (is a joke)
Tipo 93 9.0
Tipo 81 9.3 or 9.7
PGZ04A 9.0
SIDAM 7.7
SIDAM mistral 9.0
amx 30 dca 7.7
santal 8.7 (worst then stinger and no gun)
veak 8.0 (worst then m247 but idk)
lvrbv 701 9.0
ASRAD-R 9.3 or 9.7 (usually betther then a roland 1/3 sistem)
machbet 8.7 or 9.0 (worst mistral in any way)
chaparral (isr) 9.3
sorry for the broken english but is not my first lenguage
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They’re still goated, but I got downtiered in 1 of 15 games and there were still jets, instead I had 5 P-51H’s focus me, I killed 3 because 650 rounds go very far, and reversed the other 2, for them to then proceed to spend the entire game running from me because they couldn’t figure out how to fight a plane who’s advantage is turning better.
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Hehe. Props never learn. Dont try to turn fight a Spitfire
Gajiin, where’s the F15? It has the second best airframe in the game+ 8 missiles and it’s staying at 12.3? And why is the SMT going up, but the Mig 29G isn’t? If this is your way of “preparing for fox 3s” it’s horrible. Why not make those changes when fox 3s actually come out instead of having them being over/undertiered for literal months? Why is the A6M5 ko going to 5.3? Why are the J2M2/M5 going up too? Or the P-51 D-10 going down? It’s already one of the best P-51s in the game and performs great at its br
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Please…just dont
More line ups totally f***ed AMX-13 DCA 40 at 5.0? WTF? Just leave it, let the game settle.
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Don’t get me wrong, they need to go down, 7.0 is too high for them as when you actually compare flight performance they aren’t worth of 7.0 but 6.7 instead.
The Spiteful can go to 7.0 if they’re desperate with the 2750hp Griffon 61 and a Laminar flow wing so long as something goes to 6.7 of the late spitfire lineage so it has a chance against a P-51H.
Atm i’m working on the Spitfire Mk.21/23 to form a good 6.3 aircraft to counter the P-51H.
Spoiler
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Yes r3r are good but only ageinst jets that have no flares and are not aware of you. I agree it does have good dogfight capability but the only thing i want is to see jets whith 30g missiles less often becouse if they menadge to fire it there is no way of survival. Right now 9/10 games i am going ageinst 30g missiles.
It’s more mobile than either, and offers a much faster reload than the T26E1-1. It’s fine at 6.7, just other 6.7s need to move up.
Yep, what has always put me off is the likelyhood Id only see jets. I have tangoed with 2x Me262s in a SQB match before. And did quite well (was screwed over by realshatter though) but yeah, it needs some love
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I get that the A6M5 Ko is strong, but it isn’t so strong that it should go up in BR.
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Magic 2 has exactly the same flare rejection as R73. And past 1-1.5km both it and R73 can and will be one flared unless its perfect rear aspect and target keeps afterburner on.
To move the 21S to 9.3 would make it easily the best 9.3 plane, and it would be especially unfair on the J-7II and 21F-13, which are worse in every way. I understand your frustration with missiles, trust me, i do. But the MiG-21S has the speed and acceleration to be able to avoid most missile scenarios, unlike the poor G-91YS, or CL-13B, for example.
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The hispanos on the Spitfire aren’t even a perk thank you. Late war .50 cals are absolutely ridiculous with how lethal they are and I would rather have them over most guns available in props
It has terrible acceleration no flares and r3r are 10g missiles whith 2s motor and are easy 1 flare only way to get a kill whith them is if your target is not aware of you while in 9/10 matches it will go ageinst 30g missiles and everyone has flares. Its guns are good but only 200 ammo whith realy high fire rate