france 7.7 is very good but 8.0 good ???
Crewless turret easily makes up for all these disadvantages.
And if you don’t see how the AGS with M900 would be ridiculously OP at 10.0, then I don’t know what to say.
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F-15A is fine where it is
When the yanks get the 15C it’ll go alongside the others
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French 6.7 getting obliterated with the decision to move the AMX-M4 up to 7.0.
Gaijin if you are going to do this, then at least give us some 6.7’s in order to keep that lineup viable for France.
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doesnt make much sense if these tanks had aphe i would understand but its just solid shot
can’t you for once stop putting french tanks at ridicoulous brs? Like the bat-chat and amx50 to90/930 with 210 max pen at 8.0, what is wrong with you? You know they know will face 9.0 vehicles that have apdsfs, full stabilizer and laser range finders, right?
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I think that’s a problem for all 8.0 vehicles which have neither.
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I would like to suggest following
KF41
10.7 > 10.3
OR
Increase the amount of Spikes it can carry.
It has the same gun as 10.0 PUMA but it does not have its survivability.
It has 2 Spikes when Freccia sitting at 10.3 gets 8 of them.
Currently there is little to no reason to take KF41 over Freccia.
Not only Freccia outclasses KF41 on open maps thanks to its better mobility as wheeled vehicle and more Spikes, the 10.0 VCC-80/30 outclasses KF41 on city maps thanks to ATGM more suited to close range fights.
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Yeah, this needs refinement. F-15 is missing from 12.7, why are the chinese JH-7 and J8F going up but israeli planes with the same missile arent? Falcon up to 8.3? Seriously? the french 7.7s going up to 8.0? to face Obj279? Really? P-51D10, A36 and J6K1 changing? stupid idea.
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Dupleix 5.7 > 5.3 has very minor amour increase over the Colbert very bad aa and no ap shell, very small difference between it and the Colbert
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Why is the French premium Amd 35 (Sa35) on a higher battle rating while being worse than the reserve one? It has no advantages, only disadvantages.
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Why must you insist on moving french tanks up EVERY SINGLE BR CHANGE? CAN WE MAKE IT ONE PATCH WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF OUR LINEUPS DESTROYED PLEASE?
char-25T (moderate speed, 200 pen aphe, 4 sec reload) is 8.0 NOW. You can’t even BEGIN to justify that with more than “uhhh hur durr, people play good with it so it should go up hurrr” God, every single br update ruins all french stuff. I dont even remember when we EVER got something moved down.
If these tank changes for france go through as advertised, I think im going to stop spending any money on this game at all.
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Wow, these are some really bad br changes. Where is the vidar going up?
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F-5E at 11.0 is well deserved, despite how much fun it was to clown on 9.7’s in ARB.
Mirage 2000’s probably didn’t need an upteir. There are planes now that are just as fast and have more/better missiles.
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So, concerning the French TT :
- No viable AA at 5.3 anymore and both are uptiered to the 5.7 Yankee tanks no one want to play.
- No more line-up for the amx13 (FL11) (was playable with 3.7)
- No more line-up for the amx M4
- Unplayable br for the Char 25 T, the amx-50(to90/930) and the Somua SM ! 3 for the price of one !
It’s funny how fast Gaijin is fast at nerfing France TT when something in it is good. That’s not balancing stuff here, it’s simply propaganda.
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Even if you get radar lock no one fly above 500 ft so the PD is useless while you have all aspect missile and a better lookdown radar. Very Few planes counter the Mig23 in SB and most times they side with the Russian team. The F4J (UK) need attention and should cost less. Grinding for top tier was very painful to get done. Bring the F14A at a lower br so it can even the battlefield or lower the br for F4J (UK) to 10.7 like the other British Phantom. I Dont see a different in the vehicle. They have the same weaponry, radar and flight performance. With no combat above 3500ft this plane is useless to a dogfight, might as well be title just a jet bomber.
No lol, these are terrible, especially the French ones. Somua is no different in firepower than the other 100mm armed autoloading French tanks. Its only merit is it will bounce poorly aimed shots into the hull which from playing all of 7.7 France rarely happens, most shots will go into the turret regardless of what you are driving because of their uniqueness = easy weakspot memorability. This is also your premium, your money makers right? Quite weird and unintuitive.
Char 25t was a vehicle that from experience could only work at 90* flanks. Frontal shots only worked on very few cases, you are firing a 6.0 round at 8.0 with potential of 9.0. What happens if you meet a 279? The back of the turret is the only killing shot besides the gun (And a good 279 player wont let you take their gun out so easily.) This thing is out of most the 7.7 French vehicles, the least likely to be moved up and weakest vs something like Lorraine 40t or Surbaisse.
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i agree but expect the a10 the gun is useless and if that you can barly get close for a good run against these op ir spaa missile that somehow resist flares so easy i can dump all my flares and the missile will still find me
the BAZ has can use both but mainly because of the python 3’s
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Mig-23ML radar
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Mig-23MLA (germany) radar
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Mig-23MLD Radar (looks almost identical to me, though granted it might be slightly better)
Granted the MLD has the slightly better RWR, but the MLA and ML have the same RWR
Mig-23 ML also appears to have better ground pound (I think)
Mig-23MLA (Germany) = 11.3
Mig-23ML (Soviets) = 11.0
So does that mean MLA Needs to go down or that the ML needs to go up.