Planned Battle Rating changes for January 2024

My opinion if primarily focused on RB ground/AIR.

Gajin Why is the ground BR rating not being decompressed further past 9.0 + ? Seriously !!! The max BR rating for ground needs to be increased as well, WE NEED DECOMPRESSION of the entire GROUND RB BR rating between 9.0 and above which now has a compression problem due to the last major changes .

You currently have late cold war premiums including their tech tree versions at 10.0-10.3 just demolishing everything below them, 9.3 is unplayable.
Playing 9.3 forces almost every single game you try to play into a max uptier where you have vehicles like the Leopard 1a5/amx-30 super /xm1/mbt70/xm803 and other 9.3 vehicles facing vastly superior 10.3 vehicles. This is not fun,not fair and not balanced, these premium 10.0-10.3 vehicles are late cold war machines that run circles in terms of their capabilities compared to their early cold war vehicles that have practically no armor, subpar munitions and are not even close in terms of agility and speed these vehicles can achieve.
9.0 -10.0 used to be one of the best BR ranges due to the balance, you never had to face late cold war tanks because they were previously out of reach from the BR bracket.
Please for the sake of the games health and game play further decompress the Ground RB battle rating and increas the MAX BR for RB ground to at least 13-13.3.
The Turms, Premium Leopard 2, Abrams , T-80 need to be moved to 10.7, vehicles at 9.3 have no business facing these late cold war tanks that are superior in every aspect compared to them .

In terms of the Strela, that it could easily go to 10.3-10.7, its current planned 9.7 BR is still to low. You have air vehicles at this BR range that cant outmaneuver or flare/pre-flare the missiles this vehicle carries . In all honesty all missile AA Strela/Ozelot/ LAV-AD etc could use a BR increase/bump, I think its unfair that early cold war jets have to face mobile SAMS with no countermeasures, the jets at this BR aside from a few tech and premium vehicles all still use dumb bombs/rockets/munitions where the jet/vehicle has to get within a close range to be accurate . These early jets require you to get in close withing shooting distance of regular GUN SPAA already , I don’t think SAM systems should be within range of air vehicles that have no countermeasure nor the ability in terms or speed/agility to take evasive maneuvers . I dont want AIR vehicles to be dominant in ground RB but currently the scale heavily leans towards SAM systems denying any type of CAS aside from vehicles that have laser guided/tv guided munitions .

In terms of AIR RB .
The max AIR RB BR should be increased to 13.3 instead, same could be said for ground RB FYI .

  • I think all of the recently introduced air vehicles Mig-29,Mirage-4000,F-16s, F15s,F14, Su-27,JAS39s need to be placed at a BR of 12.7-13.3 at least. Some of these vehicles carry missiles that lower BR Jets do not have the ability to counter let alone enough countermeasures just to survive 1 missiles being shot at them . This is also made worse by another issue with AIR RB gameplay having major flaws, why are matches 16v16? The amount of players per game lobby needs to be reduced, the objectives on the map from bases to ground targets need to be spread out throughout the map. AIR RB at this point has turned into Arcade 2.0, this is not fun, every match turns into a furball in the middle of the map. For some of the newer missiles that were introduced like the Aim-9M the R-73 the amount of countermeasures required to dodge one of them is already fairly high. Reducing the match size to 8v8 as well as spreading out the objectives throughout the entire map would benefit the gameplay and longevity of the game vastly. There are way to many players in one match in AIR RB at higher BR .

-In terms of the F-5E being moved to 11.0 is questionable, I think 10.7 currently is a perfect BR for it , the vehicle only has access to aim-9js. I could see it being moved to 11.0 if it had access to aim-9Ls at least, the F-5E has no radar missiles and is limited to only carrying 2 heat-seeking missiles.Its not the fastest jet and its real strengths comes from exploiting mistakes other players make. Having played the F-5E and faced it with other jets as well its a great dogfighter but most jets easily out accelerate and out-speed and carry vastly more missiles/weaponry then this jet. I personally think it should remain at 10.7.

The recent compression to ground and AIR has made the game vastly less enjoyable to play in realistic battles in the last 2-3 major patches . Also the dumb and lazy map changes the devs have recently forced upon ground RB should be reverted, why are the map sizes and game-play area on maps being reduced ?
Who asked for this ?
Maps have been made significantly smaller compared to their original versions, the terrain made flat, cover removed ? Why ? Who approved these changes and why was the community not asked if these stupid map changes/edit are even wanted ? These changes are forcing boring game-play that only benefit heavily armored vehicles , no more flanking no thinking about the map, using map knowledge or contesting strong points and sight lines. Just press W , point and click is the gameplay the devs seem to be taking the game towards. Ground RB should have access to the SIM ground maps, we need bigger maps with larger play areas not this reduction of map sizes forcing everyone down small corridors with no cover. I dont want a Call of Duty with tanks. At least give us more MAP bans so we can ban all the stupid recent maps that were changed/made worse recently because the changes done to them are terrible and the maps are worse then their original versions in every aspect.

The last 2 major patches have reduced my enjoyment of the game the most out of any of the games previous patches in the games history and I have been actively playing Ground/Air RB since the early Beta days. I honestly fear the direction the game and game-play is headed with the reduction of the map size and game-play area. I dont recall any player feed back of the community asking the devs to make the maps worse then their original version let alone them to reduce the overall map size/gameplay area.

they miss to put it but im sure it will

It would be great if Tiger 2H got uptiered to 7.0 and both T32s either get downtiered .3 br OR have their base reload cut down from 17-18ish secs to 15 secs, as Wikipedia stated that the gun’s fire rate is 4rpm.

Also I find it controversial that the T95 is getting uptiered to 7.3. Like, that got uptiered and not the T29 which is just overall a much better WW2 105mm platform?

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Love it, especially the sim rotation. Not sure why Mirage F1’s and MiG-23’s went up against 4th gen 75% of the time until now. They kinda still do but barely. Atleast not VS Su-27’s etc

I’ve used both, and Magic 2 especially very extensively (just got a hold of the R-73 a week ago). I can tell you that I had more time getting my Magic 2 flared, even when reaching Rear Aspect angle than I ever did with R-73 ever since I got a hold of it. Added its poor range compared to the R-73, it’s just not up to par.

I wanna say things i cant say otherwise i get banned but you are wrong on so many levels…i will roll up your stuff tomorrow

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Yeah it should maybe that wil be shown in the next version of the br changes

t32 vs tiger 2 h same br … are you sure about that

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And magic 2 can’t be used at very close range unlike the r73

the whole french 7.7 lineup to 8.0? are you high? and VIDAR stays at 8.0? can I have my money back? Can i refund the Somua?

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With the strela i agree with moving it up to at least 10.0, unironically i have been able to flare/dodge the type 81 missiles a whole lot more than the strela’s

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Please give type 81 something before rising it BR! I don’t understand why it go to 11.0 while 2S6 (with radar, missile and 2 30mm cannon) still staying at 10.7, is it some sort of Russia bias?

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What are you talking about? Both of those are different BR’s 6.7 and 7.3.

I’m aware that it’s somewhat extraneous to BR discussion, but I think that equipping the Italian F-16 ADF with AIM-9L/is and moving it up should be considered. I know that there are probably other plans for Italy’s top tier, but as it stands the tech tree is in dire need of a supersonic/high-performing IRCCM missile carrier.

You can pray for the Hungarian Gripen for Italy lol

I would expect a full sub-tree for the case that a Hungarian jet is added, but I’m not expecting such a large addition any time soon. Smin has said “Keep your expectations low about anything major or huge for top tier coming. Because there has already been a lot for Italy from Apex - Now.”

it was a observation on the point of a different user

So in ur slav logic j8f with pl8 is as powerful as aim54c and must be up tiered to12.0?slv-÷!

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phoenixes are kinda crap

They have exactly same IRCCM in the game files , must be your luck. 9M/AAM-3 IRCCM is superior anyway. R-73/Magic-2 IRCCM need like a small IRCCM buff , %10