- GRB, ZiS-12 (94-KM). 3.3 > 3.0. It is perfect at 3.0. There have never been complaints about it here.
GRB, Kfir C.10. 12.7>11.7
While a very capable aircraft in it’s Air RB BR, it has no right being a higher battle-rating than the F-16C Barak II in GRB, or any other comparable aircraft when it only gets 2 bombs and a max of 4 missiles, inferior to those of a similar/lower BR.
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Whine more, lol. Blame your skills at that time
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Phantom FGR.2
Mode: Air Realistic
BR: Stay at 12.0 but add AIM-9L
The FGR.2 is worse across the board than the F-4J and especially the F-4S at the same BR. With several of the aircraft it can see in a downtier being moved down, it will likely face more uptiers. Giving it historically accurate AIM-9L would help even the playing field. Especially since this was a frontline fighter for the UK well beyond the time the US introduced the F-14 and F-15.
Meanwhile, the FG.1 should stay as-is, but move down in BR to 11.7 (see separate post, per rules).
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- GRB, Lvkv 42. 4.7 > 4.0. It has barely any ammo and the crew is very exposed.
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Air RB JH7A 12.3→11.7
4 ir missile with no irccm on attack jet=47f+49L on fight so balanced
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ARB- F-104S (Italy). 11.3>11.0
The F-104S, like the F-104G, is an excellent machine, but not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and also challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21bis variants, F-4EJ, and etc. The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.3. Furthermore, what it faces in uptiers so completely outclasses it that it hardly constitutes a threat. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to the F-104S-TAF as well.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Phantom FG.1
Mode: Air Realistic
BR: 12.0 > 11.7
The FG.1 is worse across the board than the F-4J and especially the F-4S at the same BR. With several of the aircraft it can see in a downtier being moved down, it will likely face more uptiers. By keeping it as an “early” example before the advent of AIM-9L, it can be justified to drop to 11.7. In contrast, the FGR.2 could remain as a “late” example and stay at 12.0 with the addition of AIM-9Ls.
That way, there could be some slight differentiation between the 2 Phantoms in the UK tech tree.
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ARB, Eurofighter (All variants) 14.0>14.3
The power creep the Eurofighter brings when down-tiered, even in a 13.7 game is matched by nothing else but the Rafale and other Eurofighters. Offering vastly superior performance to anything else in the game in all regards. Outpacing it’s battle-rating sibling, the F-15E.
ARB BR:Thailand F-16A OCU:13.7->13.3.
A jet worse than Su-34 but with higher BR is unacceptable.
Thailand F-16A OCU shall receive a thermal target pod(It has used Sniper XR ATP targeting pod in realistic) and HMD in order to keep its AR BR as 13.7.
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ARB- F-104S-TAF (Italy). 11.3>11.0
The F-104S-TAF, like the F-104G, is an excellent machine, but not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and also challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21bis variants, F-4EJ, and etc. The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.3. Furthermore, what it faces in uptiers so completely outclasses it that it hardly constitutes a threat. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to the F-104S as well.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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air RB j7e 11.3→11.0
how 4 tail aspect ir missile can fight with radar missile just joking
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ARB, Rafale 14.0>14.3
Much like the Eurofighter, the Rafale offers such a massive jump in performance over anything else. But with a very minor BR increase. Outpacing everything except the Eurofighter. Including the F-15E, at the same BR. While being able to fight aircraft without Fox 3s and IRCCM missiles.
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F-4J(UK)
Mode: Air Realistic
BR: Stay at 12.0 but add AIM-9L
The F-4J(UK) has inferior missile options than the American F-4J and especially the F-4S at the same BR. With several of the aircraft it can see in a downtier being moved down in this update, F-4J(UK) will likely face more uptiers. Giving it historically accurate AIM-9L would help even the playing field. Especially since this was a frontline fighter for the UK well beyond the time the US introduced the F-14 and F-15.
On a side note: this aircraft should be renamed “Phantom F.3.” While F-4J(UK) is technically correct as well, the Phantom F.3 designation is more in line with the rest of the tree as well as the 2 tech tree Phantoms.
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AIR RB
f-104g_china 10.7→10.3
f-104j 10.3→10.7
f104j with 6 9p in 10.3 when 104g CN with 4 9j in 10.7 showing how brainless balance groups are
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Spitfire LF Mk.IX
Meteor F.8
Swift F.7
Vampire FB.5
Javelin FAW.9
Lightning F.3/53
Jaguar GR.1/1A
Harrier GR.1/3/7
Sea Harrier FRS.1/FA.2
Phantom FG.1/FGR.2
Tornado GR.1/F.3/GR.4
but no Phantom F.3 but F-4J(UK)
I just can’t get it why.
:/
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I think that it’s fine at 11.3.
Its dogfight performance exceeds that of anything at its BR, and it has an excellent RWR as well. PL-5Bs are fairly good, longer range missiles, and they are quite good. The only thing it lacks is longer range capability and a radar, both of which aren’t super important at 11.3.
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Naaahh…
Compared to Sea Harrier FRS.1, J-7E should stay 11.3.
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GRB, Rafale 12.7>13.0
The range of it’s fire and forget ordnance, combined with quantity and flight performance make it borderline untouchable in the right hands, even to the best SPAA in the game. Forcing CAP play, while being able to play against 11.7 aircraft that cannot touch it.
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Air RB +ground RB
mig-17_f5 9.3→9.0
when cl13bmk6 goes down, mig-17_f5 been forgot long on 9.3
how a mig17 same br as mig19 and mig21
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