- GRB, KF41. 11.0 > 10.7. The KF-41 is so terrible but the lowest it can be put where other things like it are is at 10.7 where the Vilkas, Freccia, and CV 90 Mk.IV sit.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: A-7D
Change: 10.3 β 9.7
Reasoning: Since the F-105D and F-4C are being reduced in BR, the A-7D should also be lowered. As a subsonic aircraft with suboptimal flight performance, it struggles to compete at its current BR. At present, it feels overtiered and burdened by outdated BR placement.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: A-7E
Change: 10.7 β 9.7
Reasoning: The same reasoning applies to the A-7E as with the A-7D. Since the F-105D and F-4C are being reduced in BR, the A-7E should also be lowered. As a subsonic aircraft with suboptimal flight performance, it struggles to compete at its current BR. At present, it is overtiered and burdened by outdated BR placement.
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ARB- F-104G (Germany). 11.0>10.7
The F-104G, while an excellent and underrated aircraft, is not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and is even challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21MF and J35D/XS Drakens, and two of those examples are about to drop below the Starfighter even further, while being just as capable (if not more so, in some ways, given their better maneuverability). The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.0. It also should follow these aircraft down in BR to act as a counter. Furthermore, the aircraft it faces in an 11.7 or 12.0 uptier match can so completely outclass it that even a dedicated Starfighter enjoyer will find themselves hard-pressed to accomplish much. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to all the F-104G variants that have countermeasures across all nations.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: A-7K
Change: 11.3 β 10.7
Reasoning: Since the BR for Air RB and Ground RB is now separated, the A-7K, which uses the same powerplant as the A-7D and A-7E and is subsonic, should be lowered to 10.7 and retain its AIM-9Ls. Currently, its flight performance hinders its ability to function as an optimal attacker in air RB.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: F-20A
Change: 12.7 β 12.3
Reasoning: Since the F-16 is being moved to 12.3 and has overall better flight performance than the F-20A, and considering that the F-20A currently shares the same BR as the F-16 ADF, the F-16 ADF outperforms the F-20A in terms of RWR, flight performance, countermeasures, and missile load. For these reasons, the F-20A should be lowered to 12.3.
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: B7A2 (Homare 23)
Change: 3.7 β 4.0
Reasoning: Iβve played this aircraft a lot in Air RB, and I must admit, itβs a monster with airspawn, giving it an uncontested energy advantage. This aircraft dominates every Air RB match with its ridiculously good flight performance, which allows it to hold its own against Bf-109Fs and XP-50s. It can easily intercept and destroy bombers, often outdoing other fighters. I consistently net 5-8 kills per match in this thing, which speaks volumes.
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ARB- F-104G (Italy). 11.0>10.7
The F-104G, while an excellent and underrated aircraft, is not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and is even challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21MF and J35D/XS Drakens, and two of those examples are about to drop below the Starfighter even further, while being just as capable (if not more so, in some ways, given their better maneuverability). The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.0. It also should follow these aircraft down in BR to act as a counter. Furthermore, the aircraft it faces in an 11.7 or 12.0 uptier match can so completely outclass it that even a dedicated Starfighter enjoyer will find themselves hard-pressed to accomplish much. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to all the F-104G variants that have countermeasures across all nations.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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ARB- F-104G (France). 11.0>10.7
The F-104G, while an excellent and underrated aircraft, is not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and is even challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21MF and J35D/XS Drakens, and two of those examples are about to drop below the Starfighter even further, while being just as capable (if not more so, in some ways, given their better maneuverability). The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.0. It also should follow these aircraft down in BR to act as a counter. Furthermore, the aircraft it faces in an 11.7 or 12.0 uptier match can so completely outclass it that even a dedicated Starfighter enjoyer will find themselves hard-pressed to accomplish much. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to all the F-104G variants that have countermeasures across all nations.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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- GRB, ZiS-12 (94-KM). 3.3 > 3.0. It is perfect at 3.0. There have never been complaints about it here.
GRB, Kfir C.10. 12.7>11.7
While a very capable aircraft in itβs Air RB BR, it has no right being a higher battle-rating than the F-16C Barak II in GRB, or any other comparable aircraft when it only gets 2 bombs and a max of 4 missiles, inferior to those of a similar/lower BR.
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Whine more, lol. Blame your skills at that time
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Phantom FGR.2
Mode: Air Realistic
BR: Stay at 12.0 but add AIM-9L
The FGR.2 is worse across the board than the F-4J and especially the F-4S at the same BR. With several of the aircraft it can see in a downtier being moved down, it will likely face more uptiers. Giving it historically accurate AIM-9L would help even the playing field. Especially since this was a frontline fighter for the UK well beyond the time the US introduced the F-14 and F-15.
Meanwhile, the FG.1 should stay as-is, but move down in BR to 11.7 (see separate post, per rules).
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- GRB, Lvkv 42. 4.7 > 4.0. It has barely any ammo and the crew is very exposed.
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Air RB JH7A 12.3β11.7
4 ir missile with no irccm on attack jet=47f+49L on fight so balanced
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ARB- F-104S (Italy). 11.3>11.0
The F-104S, like the F-104G, is an excellent machine, but not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and also challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21bis variants, F-4EJ, and etc. The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.3. Furthermore, what it faces in uptiers so completely outclasses it that it hardly constitutes a threat. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to the F-104S-TAF as well.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Phantom FG.1
Mode: Air Realistic
BR: 12.0 > 11.7
The FG.1 is worse across the board than the F-4J and especially the F-4S at the same BR. With several of the aircraft it can see in a downtier being moved down, it will likely face more uptiers. By keeping it as an βearlyβ example before the advent of AIM-9L, it can be justified to drop to 11.7. In contrast, the FGR.2 could remain as a βlateβ example and stay at 12.0 with the addition of AIM-9Ls.
That way, there could be some slight differentiation between the 2 Phantoms in the UK tech tree.
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ARB, Eurofighter (All variants) 14.0>14.3
The power creep the Eurofighter brings when down-tiered, even in a 13.7 game is matched by nothing else but the Rafale and other Eurofighters. Offering vastly superior performance to anything else in the game in all regards. Outpacing itβs battle-rating sibling, the F-15E.
ARB BR:Thailand F-16A OCU:13.7->13.3.
A jet worse than Su-34 but with higher BR is unacceptable.
Thailand F-16A OCU shall receive a thermal target pod(It has used Sniper XR ATP targeting pod in realistic) and HMD in order to keep its AR BR as 13.7.
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ARB- F-104S-TAF (Italy). 11.3>11.0
The F-104S-TAF, like the F-104G, is an excellent machine, but not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, and also challenged by aircraft a step (or two) below it in BR. There are aircraft with similar performance and armament capabilities below it in BR already, such as the MiG-21bis variants, F-4EJ, and etc. The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities and armaments, and it is not equivalent to many of the aircraft it faces at 11.3. Furthermore, what it faces in uptiers so completely outclasses it that it hardly constitutes a threat. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. This applies to the F-104S as well.
Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.
The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.
Thank you for your consideration.
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