Lmfao so you think the Block 10 with ZERO BVR capability and the Iranian Tomcat with a 2010s long range missile should have the same BR?
Arcade, AEC AA. 3.7 > 4.3. Good fire rate and above-average all-aspect armor makes this a survivable SPAA with very good anti-air performance
Arcade, ZSD63/PG87. 5.3 > 5. Armor thin enough to be killed by MG, Painfully slow reload, generally slightly below average performance all around, super high visibility so easily spotted
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90% of Tiger II games are on 7.3-7.7 where you are fighting the US. HT USA will attack the tower and you are basically dead. If you are lucky, you may damage the cannon or the castle and that’s it. Currently, Tigers II can be countered even with machines running 5.7.
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I can’t understand why Staghound AA need to go up at 3.3
while it has same 2x 50cal as same as M13 MGMC does…? (which is 1.3 on Ground Arcade)
can I get a piece of extra information?
I feel a bit strange about this.
Vehicle: Falcon
Gamemode: Ground RB
Change: 8.3 —> 7.7 (APDS deletion)
Reason: The APDS on this vehicle is extremely threatening and I believe it needs to be modified. I suggest that instead of removing the APDS for this vehicle, the BR be set to 7.7.
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didn’t say that
Since the Mirage 2000C S5 goes up to 12.7 is there any chance that it gets its 4x Magic 2?
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Dont worry dude, the A10C only reaches the battle in time every 1 in 10 games
The difference, I think, is that the staghound has enough armor to make it survivable to strafing runs + being faster.
Your opinion is correct. If you shoot the chipping, you can indeed penetrate it. However, if the opponent is facing the front, it is difficult to penetrate that area consistently. It is clear that it has less weaknesses than Tiger in the tree. I think it performs as well as 6.0 deserves.
Realistic battles.
Strf 9040C
BR change to 10.0.
Reason:
Firing an inferior round to 2S38, its competitor at 10.3, while being a notably slower vehicle.
More reason:
Fixing the Abrams and Type 90 turret rings would make them more survivable against this machine specifically.
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Realistic battles.
P-51H-5-NA
BR change to 6.7.
Reason:
Its flight performance exceeds all other props at its current BR of 6.3 to the point the minor negative in its weaponry aren’t an issue for its combat performance in realistic game modes.
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- The T-72 family and the T-80 family are completely two different vehicles 2. Turn on the armor analysis and see the ERA arrangement 3. the lower plate does not have a composite, only the composite overlaps from the upper plate… which does not help anyway (resistance about 200 mm for apfsds). 4. Survivability should also take into account the ammunition carousel, which is arranged in the letter L, which extremely reduces the durability compared to the T-72B. regarding reload time, I agree that a shorter reload time can save lives, but this is not a rule, mobility is better, it is true, but there is no such difference as a traditional gas turbine engine. If the T-80UD is to go higher, then the turret armor should have at least the strength of the T-72B 89 and the front hull armor should be identical to that of the T-80U. Then no objections.
EBR(1954), Add PCOT-51P as promised years ago, 180mm pen is not worth at 6.7, should be consider as AMX-13
Lorraine 40t 7.7- 7.3 (RB)
After buffing AMX-50’s reversing speed, Lorraine is now totally worse than AMX50, due to the armor issue.
Char 25t 8.0-7.3
only 215mm pen APHE can’t make it better than Somua or AMX-50s, at least it is worse than object 906
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Churchill mk.1: Down BR, 3.3 to 3.0
Reason: The Churchill mk.I, with decent armor but a 2pdr gun, has no place in 3.3, exposing itself too much to vehicles that are too powerful for it, without forgetting that the 3.3/3.7 constantly gets played in 4.0/4.3. The battle rating reduction would do it a lot of good.
Chieftain Mk.3 : Down BR, 8.7 to 8.3
Reason: As with the case above, the Chieftain mk.3 is let’s say… Very slow, hyper slow and it does not have APFSDS ammunition like most of its competitors at the same level and you’ve have the Mk5 (little engine boost is making the different) in the same BR. The vehicle would be equivalent of the M60A1 (AOS) or the T-55A which had their battle rating reduced some time ago. It would be great if the Chieftain Mk.3 followed suit.
Tortoise: Down BR, 6.7 to 6.3 or ADD its historical 32pdr APDS
Reason: The unloved mastodon needs some love and should be reduced to 6.3. However, it could stay in 6.7 if the latter receives its missing APDS. (please ADD Centurion 32 pdr, for Battlepass.)
Black Prince: Down BR, 6.0 to 5.7
Reason: The big old forgotten, for years. It only has good armor which can be very solid, but this remains his limit since there are many opponents for it who are between 5.3 and 6.7, without forgetting that, it’s largely handicapped by his mobility mediocre. Offering it its place among the 5.7 like it would be perfect with tigers.
Stug III in Germany, M24 from USA and Italy : Put them in rank III.
Reason: These vehicles have copies in other nations (Japanese M24 and the Italian Stug III) at Tier III, so they need to be placed correctly and help new players to make Warbonds Challenges easier.
Panzer IV F2/G/H : Raise BR , 3.3/3.7 to 3.7/4.0
Reason: Panzer IVs are powerful vehicles, great for new players, their battle rating in 3.7 and 4.0 was perfect, bring them back to those ratings and upgrade them to Tier III.
T-72AV: Raise BR, 10.3 to 10.7
Reason: T-72AV. This one has caused a lot of ink to flow for far too long. Its imposing performances are in part too important to fight 9.3 area and it would be good the vehicule join its fellow premium MBT 10.7
2S38: Raise BR, 10.3 to 10.7 minimum
Reason: HTVL russian version with alot of ammo, should be raise for a lot time.
M56 Scorpion: Down BR, 6.7 to 6.3
Reason: The panzerJager 4-5 is in 6.3. Same gun, same ammunition, same game technique. The difference is that the M56 is lighter, but too exposed, being able to be neutralized by the Coax of the vehicles, which makes it a big obstacle. Note that there is the M50 Ontos in 6.7 which is already a tank destroyer.Downgrading him to 6.3 would help it in its fragile situation.
T20: Down BR, 6.3 to 6.0
Reason: Panthers are better, sitting at 6.0 and raise the vehicule to 6.3 was an error.
Air Realistic Battles, Mig 15, 8.0 > 8.3.
The mig 15 has ridiculous performance for it’s absurdly low BR. Me 262’s and other ww2 era planes should not be able to face it in combat, it was fine where it was in 8.3
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Make sure to read the main post
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I agree, if it goes down too much it clubs stuff. we really should be at 15.0 now, but since gaijin would rather go bankrupt than do that, I’ll humbly ask for 14.3/14.7
Im more and more leaning towards reducing the matchmaker to be +/- 0.7 instead of its current +/-1.0 rather than endlessly trying to decompress. The effect would be the same, but it would be instant, a fraction of the effort and ultimately more effective in the long run.
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