Planned Battle Rating Changes for February 2025

Ground realistic, F104S.ASA 11.3 → 10.3.

Reason: Slight better ordanace the the F104G at 10.0. Get access to limted amout of aim9L’s. This warrents higer br. But comparing the F104S.ASA with similar aircraft at lower br like Torando ids (10.3) you see that the F104S.ASA has worse payload, way worse agility, RWR and amout of countermeasures. But it has better speed. Hence it should be at a comparable br (10.3)

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Ground realistic, F104S 11.0 → 10.3.

Reason: Slight better ordanace the the F104G at 10.0. This warrents higer br. But comparing the F104S. with similar aircraft at lower br like Torando ids (10.3) you see that the F104S has worse payload, way worse agility, RWR, amout of countermeasures and missiles. But it has better speed. Hence it should be at a comparable br (10.3)

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You need functional RWRs and countermeasures.

The F-104S.ASA RWR does not give information on the direction of the incoming missiles. How is it supposed to defend against a fox-3 missile that can kill it from across the map

The MiG-23MLA has an RWR with no launch warning and only four sectors. It is IMPOSSIBLE to gauge the angle of an incoming missile precisely enough to be 100% sure you can notch it with only 8 directions available to you on the RWR scope

You dont think about this. You only think about your precious plane. Its better to make one plane weak than to have a whole family of planes suffer.

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Air Simulator Battles, Ariete (Italian aircraft), 9.0 > 9.7

The Ariete has extremely strong guns, some of the best maneuverability, and a TWR that makes it faster and better-accelerating than everything it faces, on top of being an incredibly small target. At its current BR, nothing can even come close to beating it if not flown as poorly as possible. Even at 9.7, it would be stronger in a dogfight than anything it would face, but at least there would be an answer to it, rather than have it dominate matches to a degree that is just oppressive.

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Finally a sane take today, I’m sobbing internally

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Lets be honest. It should be 9.7 in RB too

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Can you buy me a mig 23 ml i love russian jets .

Again, you don’t need an RWR or countermeasures to decoy the Phoenix/Fakour. When you enter the notch and beyond, the missile cannot track you anymore. That’s a fact. You don’t need to precisely notch it. Just fly away. It’s really as simple as that. Please stop asking.

It’s cruising speed is around 900km/h realistically, beyond that it locks up when you try to dive on someone.

Pretty sure it doesn’t do that.

It isnt “As simple as that”

Louder for the ones at the back. These RWRs DO NOT GIVE INFORMATION ON WHAT DIRECTION THE INCOMING MISSILE IS COMING TOWARDS YOU AT. So it is therefore NOT POSSIBLE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO TO NOTCH THE MISSILE.

I dont need a notching lesson. Im not the one dying to these missiles. Im standing up for the vehicles that cannot defend themselves against them.

I will not be lectured by someone with five vehicles listed on their statcard. You literally have not played any other vehicle at the BR (apart from the F-4S).

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so you want to be faster than everyone on top of being the best turn fighter with the best guns? you are mad i say.

it was just an example. he explains how to replicate it in the video. anyone can do that with half a braincell.

Go into a test flight and see. I trust statshark on this

Both the F4J UK and F4EJ ADTW absolutely NEED to go to either 11.7 and 11.3, respectively. I think the the UK also needs to drop to 11.3 but I understand it has better radar than the ADTW and skyflash. But the ADTW is worse than the F4E.

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you’re right, let’s spread the discussion around every section of the forum so it’s harder for CM’s to listen to feedback.

This thread is specifically made for that reason, you spouting my name around the forums on some useless rant because i closed your topic will get you nothing.

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so you want to be faster than everyone on top of being the best turn fighter with the best guns? you are mad i say

It’s still going to be amongst the slowest whilst not going up against all aspect missiles.

Air RB: F8U-2 Crusader - 10.3 to 10.7 BR

After the wing rip changes, this thing is beyond an apex predator at 10.3 BR. There are very few decent counters. It’s easily much better than the F-5C; and I have no issue dealing with F-5E and MiG-21Bis in it. Rarely does it get a full uptier against 11.3 BR aircraft that can actually threaten it. F8U and F8E are now functionally identical, one has better flight characteristics and no SARH, while the other gains SARH and loses a slight edge in dogfights.

9.3 BR aircraft have absolutely zero capability to compete. Well, maybe the Ariete can. But that’s a bit of an outlier at 9.3 BR.

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I am sorry but I disagree. It should be 8.0 minimum. It may have small engagement range but its turret is so responsive and you get IRST that gives no RWR warning for the aircraft that have one…

What I would rather see is it getting a full APDS belt, not because of its AP capabilities but because of its increased range.

Yeah its why I keep pushing/nudging the SUU-11 miniguns, it will massively improve its air to air and allow it to be more fairly balanced.

I personally am fine using the current gunpods in 1v1s, but it kind of shows how its not very well balanced as its other characteristics are just really good for its BR which can overshadow the relative light weapons.

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Probably a typo as it might be 1026 but definitely not 1126.