This aircraft was previously comparable to the F-86F-25/30 and MiG-15bis. It was overlooked when the Sabre/MiG families were decreased. It currently sits at a BR where its speed, acceleration, and climb are not competitive with planes like the MiG-17PF/Lim-5P (which should also be raised to 9.0 anyway).
Moving to 8.3 would place this aircraft at the same BR as its peer performers.
UNLESS, all the Sabre & MiG changes (8.0-9.0) were reverted (to 8.3-9.3).
9.3s will already suffer as much or more fighting it as it struggles vs 11.3s. There is little reason for it to go down to 10.3 imo, and definetly none for 10.0
Well, I´ve made a topic about this but katyusha closed it because I typed here before Lol.
wow instead in helping locating singular problems with post like this and helping in solving it, you´re closing it and reducing the amount of atention it could get, great hahahaha.
The point being that it is more fair to have the F-14 fight 14.0s, than it is to have vehicles with essentially no capability to defend themselves fight fakour 90s.
This except go a step further, remove all downtiers for supersonics in the last 5 years (so that the bottom BR for supersonics is 10.0 or 9.7) and then revert ALL downtiers to these planes… CL13 Mk6 should be 9.3 is the only exception to that.
It should be
8.3 - F-86A-5, MiG-15, CL-13 Mk.4
8.7 - F-86F-25, MiG-15bis, MiG-15bis-ISH
9.0 - CL13 MK5, F-86F-2, MiG-17, MiG-17AS, F-86F-40
9.3 - Shenyang F-5, MiG-17PF, CL13 MK6, Lim-5P
Not in reality. F-86s aren’t cruising around the map at 1106kph they can just theoretically reach that. Ariete actually is cruising near its top speed until it gets into a dogfight, in which case it can quickly just regain the speed back upon exiting it anyway.
The Namer Tsrikhon should not be moved up unless it is given more missiles. The thing usually loses all of its ammo in one shot to the turret, which happens more often than you’d think. And your one saving grace is if you didn’t use the two spikes in the hall before the turret was shot. Spikes can be very powerful, but four is inadequate for a large, slow 11.3 vehicle. Another idea is to increase the armor on the Namer, as it’s nearly the same weight as the Merkava Mk 4 with less armor. How can it be a single ton less than the Merkava when it doesn’t have a giant turret and has less armor? That makes no sense at all! Even Israelis say the Namer is more armored than their tank, stating they reinvested the removed weight from the lost tank turret into extra armor.
I still wonder why the EBR 1951 is 4.3 in GAB. People around have the marker to find it, and its speed can’t compensate for its lack of firepower and survivability. It’s faster than a M24 on paved roads, but that’s about its sole advantage and the M24 is 3.3.
Yes, it will be. I fly the thing. It is unbeatable when played correctly against subsonics… you can literally win ratefights in a spiral climb against some subsonics if you don’t piss on the throttle and yank it around… it still is a much higher energy plane than subsonic korean era jets.
Reason: is comparble to the Mig 21Bis, Mig23M/Mf and F4 phantoms that got a br decrease in ground. JA37D has worse ordanace but gets better missiles (aim9l). So it’s a perfect counter part to the Mig21’s, F4 and Mig23. And comparing JA-37D with Torando IDS you see the JA-37D has better flight perfromance and countermeasures
But as a trade of way worse ordance and rwr.
This warrents a decrease in br in ground.
It doesn’t have to be, its to separate it from the earlier MiG-17 variant because we don’t have enough BRs yet to decompress further than that. Lim-5P is closer to CL13B than CL13 Mk5 to me but I am not perfect in knowledge here
Absolutely. This is what I prefaced my original post with.
Perhaps pre flight model nerf, the sustained turnrate of the J35 is not good now, even if you are careful with it and hold your speed well. Statsharks puts it at 13.5 deg/s and this is with minfuel
But look, I agree with you man, we’re just a victim of the compressed brs. Lets not argue anymore, you seem sensible enough
Ground realistic, JA-37C 11.0 → 10.3. Reason: is comparble to the Mig 21bis and Mig23M/Mf that got a br decrease. JA37C had less countermeasures, worse ordanace and worse missiles (only rear-aspect) this warrents a decrease in br.