Vehicle: B-26C (France)
Gamemode: Air Arcade and Air Realistic
BR Change: 4.7 —> 4.3
Reason: It is identical to the B-26B found on the US tech tree which is currently at 4.3 in both Air Arcade and Air Realistic
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way to enter a thread, especially since you’re the one crying about the br change that gaijin chose to do (community feedback hasnt even been accounted for yet)
If you’re going to critique the placement of the F-14, it’s severely dishonest to only state its upsides and inflate them up over the downsides. I don’t feel like explaining why you’re horrifically wrong. Do your own research.
It should not be the same BR as the Hunter F6 which has no CMs or RWR. Its kinda insane they are at the same BR and the SRAAMs are simply not good enough at the moment to justify it. When so much has CMs, or is supersonic at or below its BR. Its pretty poor. Hunter F58 would be fine at 10.0, better than a lot of others would be at 9.7.
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Ground Realistic Battles, XM8. 9.7 > 10.0/10.3.
No US lineup exists at 9.7, this light tank would be better served at a higher BR like 10.0 or 10.3 where it could in turn receive missing features like blow-out panels and stronger ammunition like M833 or M900 (which it used historically)
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I totally feel you. The Sabre & MiG changes were horrible. I just don’t see Gaijin undoing this when they justified it using “data.”
IMO, we should have:
8.3 - F-86A-5, MiG-15, CL-13 Mk.4
8.7 - F-86F-25, F-86F-2, MiG-15bis, MiG-15bis-ISH, CL-13 Mk.5
9.0 - MiG-17, MiG-17PF, CL-13 Mk.6, F-86F-40, Shenyang F-5, MiG-17AS, Lim-5P
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The Ariete also has one of the highest top speeds, T/W ratios, acceleration curves, etc of any subsonic!
So it’s the best knife fighter in a gun fight, the top speed is lower than that of a Sabre at 8.0.
Current F6 should be 9.3 as it is (regarding current compression) That would fix your issue alone. The F58 is fine in current compression metrics, the F6 is not.
If by that you mean, one of the worst 10.0s, sure? It is not anywhere near as good as you ppl think.
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Air Realistic, J35XS. 10.7 > 10.0. Lack of all aspect missles, lack of radar warning, offset cannon and low fire rate proves unreliable. plane bleeds all its speed within one turn if you even think about turn fighting. all around even if this gets moved to 10.3 to get upteired to 11.3 will prove to be nothing but a suffer fest.
please downtier the r2y2 to 7.7 now that you’re thinking of removing it.
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In a way, yes, but in this case it isnt a problem since these vehicles are completely overtiered
It will be strong, sure, but it wont be insanely overpowered. It has essentialy no capacity to maintain energy whatsoever. Yes, it is very strong in other aspects, but its still worse than a MiG-19, lets be honest.
This is my point. I dont agree with the change, im just saying that there IS some justfication for it, which i acknowledge
Venom FB.4
Mode: Air Realistic
8.7 > 8.3
This aircraft was previously comparable to the F-86F-25/30 and MiG-15bis. It was overlooked when the Sabre/MiG families were decreased. It currently sits at a BR where its speed, acceleration, and climb are not competitive with planes like the MiG-17PF/Lim-5P (which should also be raised to 9.0 anyway).
Moving to 8.3 would place this aircraft at the same BR as its peer performers.
UNLESS, all the Sabre & MiG changes (8.0-9.0) were reverted (to 8.3-9.3).
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9.3s will already suffer as much or more fighting it as it struggles vs 11.3s. There is little reason for it to go down to 10.3 imo, and definetly none for 10.0
Well, I´ve made a topic about this but katyusha closed it because I typed here before Lol.
wow instead in helping locating singular problems with post like this and helping in solving it, you´re closing it and reducing the amount of atention it could get, great hahahaha.
Ppl have said it before and I’ll say it again, give us unlimited likes on BR threads.
I did that to make a point.
The point being that it is more fair to have the F-14 fight 14.0s, than it is to have vehicles with essentially no capability to defend themselves fight fakour 90s.
You must agree with this, surely
This except go a step further, remove all downtiers for supersonics in the last 5 years (so that the bottom BR for supersonics is 10.0 or 9.7) and then revert ALL downtiers to these planes… CL13 Mk6 should be 9.3 is the only exception to that.
It should be
8.3 - F-86A-5, MiG-15, CL-13 Mk.4
8.7 - F-86F-25, MiG-15bis, MiG-15bis-ISH
9.0 - CL13 MK5, F-86F-2, MiG-17, MiG-17AS, F-86F-40
9.3 - Shenyang F-5, MiG-17PF, CL13 MK6, Lim-5P
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The lim-5p isnt as good as the cl-13b, but apart from this, your list is good
Not in reality. F-86s aren’t cruising around the map at 1106kph they can just theoretically reach that. Ariete actually is cruising near its top speed until it gets into a dogfight, in which case it can quickly just regain the speed back upon exiting it anyway.
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INSANE. Think of what 9.0-9.7 jets would be doing against this when facing it this often?
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