When it first came out I agree that multiple IRIAF planes could farm. Once people stopped using them and people caught on how to avoid Fakours the farming dropped off significantly. Unfortunately for me, even though I’m halfway OK, I will never get a chance to “farm” in the IRIAF because spading it at the new BR makes it impossible. You can’t climb to altitude and launch a Fakour before the AMRAAM spam hits you. You’re going to spend the entire game dodging them and by the end of it there’s not going to be anyone left to shoot. In my case its fly around close to ground level avoiding the AMRAAM and all-aspect IR spam and maybe get a gun kill.
But then that would push it to 13.0, which would mean it’s worse than the Mig-29G and Su-27.
the only thing the f4s has “better” over the f20 is the amount of aim7s
Mode: Ground RB
Vehicle: J-10A
BR Change: 12.3 → 12.7
Reason: Compared to the Mirage 2000-5Ei, which shares the same 13.7 BR in air RB (which means they are “equal” in A2A combat), there is no reason for the J-10A to have a lower BR in GRB. As the Mirage 2000 5-Ei doesn’t have any air-to-ground munitions except its guns, the J-10A can be equipped with a TGP and laser-guided bombs. Also, it is much better in A2A combat than most CAP fighters in BR 12.3 (e.g., F-15A, F-15J, Su-33, J-11, etc.), eliminating all the points of using them in GRB.
Well then you’re living in your own little bubble by definition. The F-14B adds better engines, rwr, TCS, and so much more ground capabilities. The Addition of the Fakour-90 does not overcome those upgrades, therefore it cannot be…
You can believe whatever you choose. It’s just apparent that you’re wrong.
MAUS TT 7.7 now!
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I think that’s fair if u want it back down at 5.7 where there is a propper line up, but I honestly doubt gaijin will do it
It is allready 7.7…
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Mode Air Realistic battles, A32A. 9.0 > 8.7. In my opinion the plane is fine at 9.0 by itself, BUT a slight uptier makes it unusable, it only has a chance of surviving flying into space, yet it has not enough ordinance as another aircraft at his br and also is way too slow so it always gets the last place, if stock grinding it can’t get bases because in a downtier air spawn strike aircraft will take them first or faster fighters with bombs and it has to wait before acting, and if the team got defeated at the first furball it’s over, returning to base is the only safe option. I don’t have a problem with a passive game style, that’s how I’ve been using this plane and I personally enjoy the ground pound after the first encounters while both teams return to their bases, but I know a lot of people would like to play a bit more aggressive and be able to fight aircraft without being absolutely outperformed, even having an afterburned isn’t enough, it accelerates pretty slowly, yes it preserves it’s energy pretty good and that’s the potential it has, but people doesn’t wanna risk and only go for bases because even if they’re not getting there before being destroyed or outspeed by their teammates it’s the only option they have. Please consider my words, I’m not asking that much, it’s fun to play but only if you like the plane, most people don’t even care and I felt that issue when I didn’t saw any change to his br, and it now will be able to see the F4 in an uptier, it’s not gonna be fun. Thanks so much, have a nice day.
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J7W1 6.0 > 5.7 Air realistic battles, this plane has the worst climb radio at his br and turn like a brick or do it interceptor
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This is what people fail to understand. Even if the Aim-54/Fakours weren’t underperforming, they still wouldn’t outperform the current Aim-120.
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It’s only good at BVR, so having somewhat of an advantage in the only thing it’s good at is expected.
Ground RB M4A3E2 Jumbo (75) 5.3 or 5.0 > 5.7
The jumbo has good armor but still has weak spots, the mobility is decent. What is lacking is the gun, this tank struggles to kill Panthers, Tigers, T34-85s, Is-1s and much more. The m61 has 104mm of pen at 0 degrees at 10m it is hard to kill much with that and in full up tiers which is happening a lot for the US at 5.7 (my last four 5.7 games were 6.7). I think they should bring the Br back down to where is was so it doesn’t take 3+ shots to kill decently armored tank at its battle rating.
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Tiger II H (Ground RB), 6.7 → 7.0
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I think it would be better to move most 13.0+ planes up in BR, rather than moving a 4th gen with HMD, R-73s, and R-27ERs to 12.7.
The Mig-21Bison is 12.3 with only 2 R-73s and R-27Rs.
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This is still preferable to the IRIAF being left at 12.7 so it can still face 11.7-12.0 jets in downtiers that have no business facing a fakour.
Not necessarily.
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Turn 90 degrees and go cold and you’ve avoided the Fakour/Phoenix.
Exactly. Two Fakours vs. 4, 6 or 8 AMRAAMS on a single aircraft x12 planes. Do the math.
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I’m aware. I want him to realize that when he asks for F20 at 12.0 when the F-4S is already the best 12.0 jet.
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Neat! Now about all the aircraft that faces it rn that can’t see it on rwr?