when do people cry about the f104 and f8u? F14 sure because when it came out nothing could compete against it. aside from this you never disproved that the f15e is a bad jet. eurofighter can notch but so can every other jet???
the f15 is still one of the strongest fighter jets at its respective BR and i put it at 14.7 because of decompression
i agree, its not equal. its better than any of those.
pt-16 compared to the 2A4: 2.32x reverse speed, better power to weight, much faster firerate, but worse elevation speeds and armor, armor which still protects against autocannons frontally.
its not those vehicles it should be compared to, compare it to the type 90 instead and 10.7 is more than fair. its basically a type 90 with -gen1 thermals, -12.7mm mg, a worse round, but with better gun handling and much better reverse speed.
Vehicle:F-4EJ ADTW(Japan)
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Ground Realistic
BR Change: ASB: 11.0 → 10.7 GSB: 10.7 ->10.3
Reason:APQ-120 radar is very poor and cannot effectively launch radar-guided missiles.This also proves that at version 11.0,he is the worst aircraft equipped with AIM-7 missiles.If there is any interference,the radar will lock onto the interference and thus fail to effectively guide the AIM-7 missiles.
Please refer to the above content and remove the AIM-7 missile to reduce BR or directly reduce BR.
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too ridic to drop vt4 to 11.3
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agree with you, challis need more voice😭🙏
o yes more laser bomb at 10.7 wow wonderfull
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75 reload slower and has less pen than the 57, but with extra filler and the 57 is very inaccurate. still i would pick the 57 every time because of its faster reload + extra pen.
but put it up at 3.3 and well see if its still busted as hell.
i actually wouldnt say that the t34 armor is significantly better, the turret face where you want to shoot both is weaker on the t34(40mm vs 50mm), but its better armored every where else tho.
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japans top tier is at 11.3 change my mind. they need to add a new spaa at 12.0, ir missiles dont do the trick at top tier.
It makes them money, so they ignore it.
The Ozelot’s BR should be reduced from 9.7 to 8.7 for 3 reason
1)anti-aircraft vehicles should be strong and efficient against close air support to prevent damage from planes and helicopters
2)stinger can be easily dodged by everything with a very simple frontal loop or by flying very low making it strong but fair
3)the lack of anti tank ability prevent situaticion in wich it can be to inpactfull to the game
This argument can be applied to all vehicles that only use IR missiles, but to avoid making a list, I am specifically mentioning only the Ozelot
Weird how this wasn’t forwarded as a suggestion, I have a feeling I know exactly what manager was behind this
Also I want to like all your posts but the forum doesn’t
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f15e 0.6 higher than 15c only because it has more acceleration while being tons heavier and less maneuverable
F80C 7.7-7.3
It is worse than most 7.7 jets, and compared with Meteor at sthe ame BR, it is totally worse than Meteor, even some of 7.3 Jets
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I would like to promote a suggestion for battle rating reduction on the R2Y2 V1, R2Y2 V2 and R2Y2 V3, which all of the respectively sits at arcade battles BR 7.3; realistic battles BR 8.0 and simulator battles BR 7.0, BR 7.3 and BR 7.7;
Their current battle rating at realistic battles doesn’t match their performance; compared to any other fighter and striker aircraft like the F-86F has better flight performance at BR 8.3 (in realistic battles) and the F-84G-21-RE has better options for ground-to-air suspended weapons at BR 7.7, I suggest a reduction on the R2Y2 V1, R2Y2 V2 and R2Y2 V3 respectively, on their current battle rating in realistic battles from BR 8.0 to BR 7.7 minimum, up to BR 7.3 maximum to not cause issues regarding inside air realistic battles;
Personally I don’t have any experience with air realistic battles in War Thunder, but the rating on the specified vehicles left by players on their respective pages at the Wiki may show that, their current battle rating may be a issue for its true performance in combat, that are outperformed by any other planes available.
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Not BR 3.0, fixed the spelling mistake.
I just found out that someone link my thread on here thx. You have done work what I have to do.
Besides, at first I want to suggest decompression of cruisers too in that thread but found out that BR range has to be too extensive at once so I just finish with decompression of capital ships.
When decompression of capital ships done than I’ll going to work on decompression suggestion of cruisers and 4.7~5.3 destroyers too, but it would be long dream at this consequences.
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GRB
Stormer AD 10.0 → 9.7
SIDAM(Mistral) 9.7 → 9.3
PGZ04A 9.3 → 9.7
ZSU-23-4M4 9.3 →9.7
Ozelot 9.7 → 9.3
For Stormer AD, it doesn’t show better performance comparing to Gepard1A2.
For SIDAM, absence of radar and shortrange of cannon make it work no better than Machbet(Israel).
For PGZ04A and ZSU-23-4M4, clearly the introducing of ammo box make them obtain better performance, should be at the same BR with Gepard1A2.
For Ozelot, doesn’t show the same performance like Gepard1A2 in 9.7, its absence of cannon make it unable to handle close targets. And the introducing of ammo box make its ammo load advantage no more.
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Its funny how many Ignore this part
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Namer Tsrikhon 11.0 → 11.3??? Why??? It can’t even hit targets that are less than ~300 meters away, only has 4 unreliable Spikes, has all the ammo it the turret, has no armor and is slow as hell! It should be 11.0 → 10.7!
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GRB, E.B.R. (1951) 5.3 → 5.0, the cannon is too weak for that BR, you don’t have armor to compensate it, the only thing it has is mobility, but you can, for example, bring German Sd.Kfz. 234/2 or 234/4 (Puma) to the same BR and it will do the same if not better.
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