Planned Battle Rating Changes for February 2025

Playing MiG-29 with R-60s against Eurofighters and Rafales is insane

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it seems
American provide extra protein and steroids on MRE for loader
Israel doesn’t.
¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Do not delude yourself into thinking their mobility is at all comparable. The T18E2 is the size of a barn and has a meager 10.4 hp/t compared to the very impressive 17.9 hp/ton of the Puma. The T18E2 is too fat to properly play the role of a light tank and ends up feeling more like a medium. The Puma on the other hand is easily the fastest vehicle at that BR.

The T18E2 is a good matchup for some of the mainstays of 3.3. The T-34 (1940) has much better offroad mobility in a smaller package with significantly better armor than the T18E2, but has a gun that is overall harder to use and loses the scouting bonus. The M4A1 has better armor, a more punchy gun, and a .50 cal, but is overall less mobile and doesn’t get scouting. The T18E2 would definitely be strong at 3.3, but I do not think it would be out of place either. At 3.7, I feel the T18E2 would fall apart once it needs to start competing directly with the M24 Chaffee.

Anyone trying to compare the T18E2 and Sd.Kfz. 234/2 apples to apples is someone who has not played both of them. One of these vehicles sacrifices armor and firepower for unrivaled mobility while the other is a medium on wheels LARPing as a light.

Due to their launching mechanism, they’ll have a lot of issues dealing with targets in close ranges.
Type 81 is definitely better against aircraft than them, unless you wanna shoot at something 12/15km away which you aren’t hitting anyways.

Hello,

I would like to raise the issue of reconsidering the battle rating of the new Mi-8AMTSh-VN helicopter and its inclusion in the 10_2 simulator battle setup. Currently, the helicopter’s BR is clearly overestimated, especially when compared to its counterparts.

The Mi-8AMTSh-VN can be directly compared to the Mi-35M, which has a BR of 10.7 but is already included in the 10_2 SB lineup. However, the Mi-8AMTSh-VN is objectively inferior to the Mi-35M in several aspects:

1. Armament

The Mi-35M can carry 4 9M39 air-to-air missiles and 8 Ataka ATGMs simultaneously, whereas the Mi-8AMTSh-VN cannot equip both 8 Ataka ATGMs and air-to-air missiles at the same time, significantly reducing its combat effectiveness against both aircraft and ground targets.
Mi-8AMTSH-VN
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MI-35M
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The Mi-35M has access to S-13OF heavy unguided rockets, while the Mi-8AMTSh-VN lacks this option.

Additionally, the Mi-35M features a chin-mounted autocannon turret, which provides superior firepower. The Mi-8AMTSh-VN does not have such a turret.

2. Targeting System

The Mi-35M has a better zoom capability (3.7x–73.7x), making it more effective for engaging targets at long distances. In comparison, the Mi-8AMTSh-VN has a more limited zoom (12.3x–67.0x), making precise long-range shooting more difficult.

3. Mobility

The Mi-35M is more maneuverable and accelerates faster, making it less vulnerable to enemy SAMs and aircraft. In contrast, the Mi-8AMTSh-VN is bulkier and less agile, making it an easier target for enemy attacks.

The only notable advantage of the Mi-8AMTSh-VN over the Mi-35M is the presence of an IRCM system and radar. However, these features do not compensate for its numerous disadvantages. The radar, while present, has very limited usage, and most players do not even use it.

Reducing the BR to 10.7 and including the Mi-8AMTSh-VN in the 10_2 SB setup would make this helicopter more viable and balanced. Players would gain access to a unique vehicle that can compete at its level without disrupting game balance.

Assigning a BR of 11.0 and placing it in the 11_2 SB setup just because of its IRCM and radar (which is rarely used) is unfair. The helicopter is otherwise inferior in terms of performance and weaponry compared to aircraft with lower BRs, not to mention those at its own BR.

I urge players to support this proposal, and I kindly request the developers to consider implementing these changes.

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Air simulator battle, Su-27/J-11 13.3 > 13.0

It’s complicated to face off the 14.0 plane with them

It needs WAY more than Aim-9M to see 13.3. They need to unnerf the Aim-54Cs, make the TCS function how it’s supposed to, and unnerf the engines.

Air Simulator Battles, Mirage F1C, 11.7 > 12.0

At 11.7, the armament of the Mirage F1 is significantly better than opposing fighters. Magic 2s become functionally impossible to flare once they’re within about 1500-2000m, and the MTI capability of the radar makes it capable of look-down shots that almost no other planes have until 12.0. While it is inferior to many other planes in a dogfight, it has much better capability to not just win before the merge, but to be un-counterable before the merge.

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Anybody who wants the Magic 2 at an even lower BR while the IRIAF has to go to 13.0 with Aim-9Ps has 0 sympathy from me. No.

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The cv 90 mk iv must go down in rank.

Chat GPThunder moment
Just as a note, most AIs were pretty dumb when it comes to video games. ChatGPT does not know that MiG-29s were in the game, while someone fiddeling with deepseek found out the game has the KV-8(it doesnt).

F-20 and every other F-16A (Except ones with AIM-9M or AIM-120) then should go down too.

I actually tested it for AI and it came at zero.

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simulator, Sagittario 2 8.0 > 9.0

that aircraft has absolutely no business in 8.0, awesome turn, awesome speed, awesome climb rate

Move the Kugelblitz 7.0–>6.7. Germany needs an spaa at that br. Germany doesn’t have a tech tree fighter at that br and the next lower spaa is 6.0. The Kugelblitz also doesn’t even have a lineup at 7.0 so it’s useless even more so because the Wiesel is 7.3 so up tiering it isn’t worth it.

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Make the match maker br +/-.7 instead of 1. That would fix alot of compression and would make the biggest difference. I promise a majority of your playerbase is willing to wait a minute to find a match to not face vehicles a full br higher.

Where’s the decompression? Almost all of these changes are compressing the BRs even further…

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The Kugelblitz is fine at 7.0, the 6.7 lineup still works at 7.0 as 8.0 up tiers are almost non-existent

Finally F-14 iraf on 13.0

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Vehicle/s; Su27/J11

Mode; Air simulator

Battle rating; 13.3 → 13.0

Reason; These 2 aircrafts in the current Bracket system are forced into constantly fighting Vastly superior opponents such as F15E/C’s, Eurofighter’s, Rafale’s… the Su27/J11 is already at 13.0 in Air realistic battles, but in sim this aircraft still sits at 13.3 while being outclassed by every vehicle it faces.

The fact that the F4F ICE with amraams and 9L/I’s got lowered from 13.3 down to 13.0 IN ALL MODES, is alarming considering the su27 was and is in a much worse situation.

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