F-80C is fine at 7.7. The problem is all of the Sabres and MiGs that were dropped too low.
Previously, this thing could only see MiG-15bis & F-86F-30 in a full uptier. Now it can see a MiG-17PF. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Problem with the F-20 is that it gets immediatelly outclassed by the F16 however with 2 fox-3 missiles, it should be somewhat more worth using it especially with its amazing flight model but yeah I agree, F-20 does need some sort of buff to help it compete against F-16s and other top tier aircraft but 13.0 means you’d face eurofighters and rafales
Not only sabre, mig15, The F80C is too slow and the mobility is not the best, I am even sure that it will can against sea Meteor and SU11, which are 7.3
Air RB:
Yak-141 12.7 → 13.0 - give R-73 and R-77 options.
This would help add 13.0 lineup variety to russia.
And it has neither flares, a gun or is supersonic.
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That’s not stretching it whatsoever. That should be standard. Fakours aren’t Aim-120s. They’re worse.
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R-73 would be fine at 12.7 but the R-77 would make it 13.3.
If the F-20 were to get Aim-120s, it would get a double rack of them in place of the Sparrows. So 4x Aim-120.
Any battle rating changes that don’t include a BR increase for Top Tier is just moving around compression and compression is bad, m-kay.
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It would perform terribly. I don’t understand why it needs to go up. Throwing it against 14.0 effectively mitigates the one thing people seem to be upset about. The EFT and company along with the F-15E can out climb it, have better missiles, better radar, better RWRs, etcs. Its going to be forced to belly crawl, negating the Fakours completely. Which I imagine would justify dropping it again. The missiles it has can be easily defeated. I feel like the only people wanting it to go up are the ones pissed it didnt go to like Russia or China for some odd reason.
AMX-32 105 9.3 > 9.0
AMX-32 105 9.3 > 9.3 Buff the reload
It shouldn’t stay at the same BR as AMX-32 120 that has better gun and engine
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M2000D-RMV ARB 12.7-12.0
M2000D-R1 ARB 12.3-12.0
They have only 2 IRAAM and no gun. They CAN NOT fit the 12.7 air fight.
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JH-7A Air RB 12.3→11.3/11.7
it doesn’t have Fox1 or irccm missiles, and the Kh29T only has two. Only has extremely low combat capability in the 12.3 weight. And JH7A doesn’t have a gun aiming point，The body performance is only similar to F4
Or add 4 pl5e2 weights to keep them unchanged
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ZSL92 6.3-7.3 Add APDS
ZSL92 is not good as a SPAA, due to the very long reload time, it should be consider as BTR-80
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Based.
Air Realistic Battles, Mirage 4000. 13.0 > 12.7.
With yet more Fox-3 capable aircraft, this aircraft really struggles to keep up many of its contemporaries. The matchmaker typically uptiers it into 13.7 and 14.0 matches more often than not, and even when you observe the company joining it at 13.0 many of those now have ARH armaments to them as well. The Super 530D doesn’t really have the speed to contest shorter to medium range engagements, the aircraft has no HMD to give it a means to return fire defensively, and the Magic 2 requires to be very close-in to reach its target. The BR should really reflect its armament being the same weapons as the Mirage 2000C S5. Yes it has more Magics, but a Magic is still a Magic, and more importantly a 530D is still a 530D - and those 530Ds aren’t really enough for the aircraft to compete at the top tier matchmaker it’s falling in to.
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J11A 13.7 → 13.3
not like su27SM has 2 more R77S, better RWR and better engines, it should be 1 BR lower than su27SM
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agree, slow reload, weak round and no survivability due to the missing liner
Why the absolute HELL is the Namer being moved to 11.3?
It’s still super bugged, the APS barely works because it’s also bugged and underperforming, spikes literally can’t kill anything more often than not, and the 2S38 and BMP-2M, which are used all the damn time at 12.0 are still 10.3.
What the actual HELL.
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Gaijin forgot or lazy add AIM-9L on F-4J (UK) ?
I wonder about this
If gaijin add AIM-120C-3 & AIM-120C-5 on F-15E, decompress BR to 14.3
Personally, might add AIM-120C-5 & AIM-9X (Blk I) after increase max BR to 14.3