Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

TURM III

Ground Realistic

8.3→8.7

Reason: Despite the lack of armor, it has an amazing stabilized autoloaded cannon, and the 30mm Coax is the best secondary weapon carried by any tank in the game (it makes the 20mm coax on the french tanks looks like a water gun in comparison). The ammo if fires pierces right through any heavies it faces, it runs circles around the many unstabilized tanks it faces in a downtier, and if the already fast reload on the 105mm was not fast enough for you, you can obliterate light tanks with the 30mm, and many MBT’s from the side with it. And this is not mentioning the amazing mobility it has, the same or more compared to fast MBT’s like the AMX-30, while not having to deal with the major downsides of having no stabilizer.
It is also just plain superior to other tanks in its BR as well. For example, the T95E1 (is unstabilzed, has worse armor),
If the BMD-4, XM-800T are going up in BR, the TURM-III should as well. Or even give it an APFSDS round and put it and 9.0 so it is no longer terrorizing lower tier tanks.

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Lol. Bmd back to 9.3 too then. And vbc

Since the cannon is literally just a modified version of the BL 7.2-inch howitzer placed in a tank, can we give it the 7.2in Shell, HE, Mark 1D? It honestly would be better t in comparison to the HESH round in many cases.

The British 7.2in Shell, HE, Mark 1D was filled with Amatol 50/50. The amount of explosive filling was 28 lbs.

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German engines were limited in max. RPM due to reliability issues. Since reliability is not part of the game, it’s debatable wether these vehicles should or should not have their theoretical engine performance.
700 hp is the “Höchstleistung” for this engine, 600 hp is “Dauerleistung”. Meaning maximum and constant power output. ALL vehicles in game run on maximum power, VT1-2 for example or all Panzer III/IV

If I read it correctly the Wikipedia pages lists 700HP Max at 3000RPM and 650HP Dauerleistung with 2800RPM referring to “Spielberger: Der Panzerkampfwagen Tiger und seine Abarten. S. 190–191

It’s Gaijin double standart.

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and why is that

Great gaijin dont leave any good
f16

Vehicle : IS-4
Please decrease the aced reload to 15 seconds, to match the other 7.7 soviet heavy tanks (IS-6, T-10A)

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The NF-5A is blatantly overpowered at 10.7

NF-5A 10.7 → 11.3

This is to raise it to the same br as the F-5E as for all intents it is equal or superior.

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This changes are a joke. No change for J-7d, no changes for premium A-10 and Su-25 with 12.0 missiles on 10.3. Just rename the game to Premium Thunder and dont pretend that you care for non premium players.

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It was until Gaijin changed that for some unknown and undocumented reason. Instead of popping 1 at a time, they now only pop in pairs.

I hate how they can nerf a plane for no documented reason.

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BMP-3 has Gen 2 thermals actually, same as BMD-4 and 4M. Despite that I still think the increase is justified. But Begleit also deserves an increase in BR as well, that fast firing 57mm is great and puts the swedish 40mm’s to shame in comparison.

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Game Mode: Ground RB

Vehicle: ELC bis

Change: Give the ELC bis the ability to scout. It fulfills the same role of a light tank tank destroyer as other vehicles which get scouting, such as the M50, M56, ASU-85, ASU-57, Pak Puma, etc.

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Please remove the R27ER from the mig29 and give it the R73, the mig29 was designed to use the R73 and the early models did not use the ER, keep it at the same BR and it would actually be good, dont move up to 13.0, it is not equivalent to the Su27, keep at 12.7 with rebalanced missiles

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Yep. But it’s true tho.

here i am doing yet another shameless plug

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I highly doubt it’s the premium players that lower the stats this much.
2S38 isn’t the only premium but it has weirdly bad stats.

What’s wrong with the SPYDER? Genuinely haven’t played it yet and I’m curious since I’m grinding out Israel right now

Here a list with all the vehicles (I can think of right now) that should have better RoF:

  • IS-2 & IS-2 1944: 20.8s → ~15s (Shouldn’t take more than twice the time to reload than a long 88)
  • IS-4M → Same story. The IS-4 has a turret the size as a bathtub, unlike the IS-3, which achived it’s protection level from making the interior incredibly cramped and should have a longer reload time.
  • M48 tanks: 6.7s → 5.0s (They put a giant turret on a Patton tank with easy to reach ready racks)
  • M60 & Leopard 1 → Same story
  • ARL-44: 10s → 5.0s (Literally has a reload assist in the turret. 10s reload and BR 5.3 for a 1945 tank is simply stupid, it should be much more effective)
  • ARL-44 (ACL-1): 7.5 → 4.0s (Same story. If a Sherman can reload its 75 in 5s, then this 47.5t heavy tank should be at least as effective or better)
    KV-85/IS-1 → 7.4s → 6.7s (It’s a King Tiger sized turret but a gun comparable to the short 88mm. Makes no sense to reload that long. The 100mm gun has a reload of just 8.5s, using even heavier shells than the long 88)
  • Jagdtiger: 18.2s → 12.5s (Has two loaders, standing next to the gun in a casemate and after the engine nerf it’s just a worse Ferdinand without an appropriate reload time)
  • M26E1: 11.1s → 7.5s (Has the final iteration of the long 90mm, that has shells that are as short as the short 90mm. 11.1s compared to the German long 88 makes no sense.)
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Same thing applied for British armour during the war, pretty much everything had speed governors applied which are also applied in WT and have been since inception IIRC. Most famously Crusaders and Cromwells especially being limited (IIRC the CVRT fleet also have limiters as does Fox).

But dont see Brit mains complaining, the double standard is Germans getting the theoretical capability while the UK and others well, dont, lol. This is more the Germans falling into line with the rest of us.

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Calling the R-60M a 12.0 missile is a joke

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