Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2024

My main feedback is the same i posted as last br change.

I suggest to move french B-26C down to 4.3 in rb because you probably forgot to when moving down american one last br change which both are identical. C standing only for different production place I believe.
I hope my feedback isn’t ignored again since this seems like easy mistake to fix and make those 2 same br as they should.
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Possibly the case, but since they are suggested to be moved it would make more sense to include vehicles of the same “category”

J7D give PL-8, or moved to 10.7, it doesn’t perform well at 11.0, and it is also missing its bomb loadout.

P1Y1 > 3.0, really poor performance and armament

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No.

Keep HSTV-L at 11.3…

Instead, give its APFSDS actual post-pen damage and spalling, increase said shell’s speed to 1,643 m/s as bug repported (and pen accordingly) to match the specified M774 performance-level standard for its firepower and possibly even increase its rate of fire.

We don’t need HSTV-L to be at a ridiculously low BR because it ridiculously underperforms; we need HSTV-L to finally perform the way it should perform.

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Air:
okay so, instead of, you know, decompressing Air BRs, they’re proposing to make the problem worse by moving the MiG-15, the bis-ISH (which is a Bis but with better ground ordnance? how’s that below the regular bis anyway?) and the A-5 Sabre to 8.0

That is fairly catastrophic. Why not, oh I don’t know, move the F-104s back up to 9.7 where they can’t slaughter the Gunfighter BRs, move the MiG-19s back to 9.7 where they… can’t slaughter the gunfighter BRs, and move the MiG-21 F-13 and PFM back to… 9.7 where they… guess what, can’t slaughter the gunfighter BRs. All the Sabres and MiG-15 upgrades, Lim-5s and so on need to remain where they are. Simple as that. You are singlehandedly going to wreck an entire BR range with this set of changes. I don’t like the Mirage IIIC going down either, because that’s another thing that’ll ruin gunfighters at 9.0 by slinging Magic 1s at everything…

Also, if we are going to move everything down, let’s move the Hunter F.1 down. Because that thing should not ever see all aspect missiles or 30G missile slinging supersonics. Yet it does.

Ground:
Since I haven’t played most of these vehicles, I can’t comment. The Fox going up is a no brainer, though I’m not sure it’ll do a lot since it can still kill most targets from the side, and go BMP hunting. Roland going down… ehhhh. On the one hand, LGBs at 9.7 (Q-5L i’m looking at you) is a menace, but the Roland isn’t going to solve that, by virtue of having a maximum altitude of about 20,000ft.
On the other, moving it down will probably screw a fair few 8.7/9.0 CAS platforms. But hey, you be the judge.

Naval:
SKRs are not going up, waste of time.

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Sheridan 76 really should not go up. The 6.7 US lineup is great but it REALLY suffers in uptiers and then we finally get something that can deal with it! But now it’s going to 7.0 which is really sad to see.

No armour, not great mobility, only a good gun with quite poor gun traverse. Keep it at 6.7 please

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The Bis ISH is going to 8.0

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Option A would just make it really annoying to fight tbh

Looks good, but AJ37 should not be 9.7, still has solid flight performance and TWS radar. It should definitely go down to 10.3 though for SB.

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teh F-104 is the main violator, theres a reason it was the last of the old 9.7 supersonics to move down and since then its had very noticable a speed buff, thought Lightning, and MiG-19s and maybe the F-100 should move up

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Did I just see AJ37 at 9.7

Now I by no means play sim a lot (quite the opposite) but I feel like adding a supersonic, TWS radar equipped, RB24J slinging flare equipped rocket might be a bad idea at 9.7.

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I have never seen such lackluster br changes in my life. Jeez man, yall are blind to only looks at player stats and not use common sense…

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With all the talk around the 2S38 its a bit weird that it isn’t increased to at least 10.3 (going by my calculations on comparative placement between strf9040C and HSTV-L it should be 10.7) let alone not even mentioned.

Edit:
i should say that i personally have no vendetta against it, i just saw a lot of talk and got curious and did a lot of math to compare it to its closest counterparts and put it on a BR scale from 10.0 (9040C) to 11.3 (HSTV-L) and it landed on an average of 10.76 overall and that’s not including some of things it has that is just straight up better than both of the two others.
calculations here if interested.

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its literally a better Bulldog, either it goes up or the bulldog goes down, and the bulldog is alright where it is

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I take it this means everyone must absolutely love these BR changes, lmfao

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Speaking of balance changes: if Challenger 3 (TD) is meant to feel like an actual upgrade and peak of the British tech tree, it should have a 5 second reload, just like the rest of the Challengers, Abrams tanks and others;

And speaking of Challenger 3 (TD) its whole turret damage model is WRONG (it now has the OLD Challenger 2 wrong model, copy-pasted!) even though a more appropiate one already existed before Alpha Strike. How has it been like this for a month already? Is it really that hard to revert its turret model back to its correct state (hopefully with polishments as well, particularly regarding the mantlet)?

My bug report about this enormous issue hasn’t even been addressed yet.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mWd3XAjD2kZu

Speakinf of Challengers; the bug report regarding its lower front plate spall liners was made and acknowledged 3 months ago… how hard can it be to give them spall liners on the lower front plate?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/S3xGexRIXPBx

More bug reports regarding the Challenger 2s/3:

Upper front plate spall liners:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/EOBDXCu2pHDl

Challenger 2s mantlet:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/d5Moy8XHcrfe

And a long etc.

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I agree, but that suggestion is more on principle than anything I’d truly want to see.

The point I was hoping to make is that the two should be roughly equal. That being said, I’d prefer that the 2S38 goes up rather than HSTV-L down.

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MiG-19 probably should, and both the 9.3 MiG-21s could probably do with going up. F-100 maybe, but traditionally it and the 19 were always the same BR.

Lightning maybe, but that thing is very sad with its non functioning missiles right now (can barely hit anything in the rear aspect, and the old trick of side aspect slinging just stopped working at some point)

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Keep the 9.0s going to 8.7 at 9.0, move MiG-19, F-104 and Lightning to 9.7

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It will be fun to fight lighter targets, and have a better lineup alongside the fox