Ground BR
Antilope
10.0 → 9.3
this thing is just horrible, 1km front aspect lock range, proxy fuze so big you can´ t kill scout drones, no search radar, etc
This thing has no business to be above the type93
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honestly kind of agree with gaijin on this one, adding a VT proxy fuse to an AA that low would be broken, I use the M247 and that thing fucking slaps even in uptiers
Well, it would be balanced at a higher BR with already a longer reload time. It would not be assisted with some kind of radar.
alright did it
bro...
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looks at 9.3
beats su7 in straight line low altitude speed: F-104A/C, F-106A, J-7II, MiG-21F, MiG-21PFM, Lightning F6/F53, J35A
beats su7 in 1vs1 situation: Ariete, F-100A, G91YS, F-106A, MiG-19S/PT, J-6A, Q-5, J32B, J35A
surely everything
edit: not sure entirely if F-100D or Hunters can put up a fight will need to test more
Because the Pre-series Tiger II is a terrible vehicle?
It can be killed by 5.3 tanks from a kilometer away, also has a terrible gunsight with little magnification.
All this on top of their speed getting nerfed a while ago.
Playing it at 6.7 is mental when you have 2 variants of the same tank that are literally just flat out better.
being capable of brushing off hits from anything up to 90mm M3.
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But why is the T26E5 going up but not the tiger2 h?
Because Gaijin loves BR compression
Nah bro I dont wanna hear it russia literally gets the T-55AMD-1 at 9.0 WITH APS. like are we fucking serious man.
The Sd.Kfz.222 is an open top with only three crew members so its way less survivable, and the “better” ammo is HVAP which isn’t better, its angled penetration is cut in half compared to the AP that the Pbil gets and it does less damage. The Chinese Sd.Kfz.222 has a worse AP round than the Pbil with half the angled penetration and a worse gun than the German counterpart, it has half the fire rate. While yes the AB-41 has a little more penetration but it has less fire rate and its slower than the Pbil and also only has three crew and it has less armor than the Pbil, it literally only holds 8 rounds with a 6 second reload on aced crew. Angled pen matters more than raw flat pen. The Pbil is better than all the vehicles you used to argue it’s weaker than, it is simply more survivable and has better ammunition, it also has 6 crew and two drivers and can drive backwards at full speed. You did not take into account the crew counts, reload speeds, how much better the ammunition of the Pbil is, the fire rates, how fast the vehicles are, or how much ammunition these vehicles get on a full reload. Do more research next time.
In a turning gunfight I assume you mean?
Because something like the Ariete you should just be running away from and not trying to dogfight.
Its a bit like people complaining the BF109 is bad because it cant win a turn fight with a Zero or Spitfire.
If you play something wrong, of course it will do poorly.
I also dont beleive you when you say the J35A will outrun an Su-7. The others… maybe, depending on fuel loads, but a J35A really?
But you have yet to give a valid reason why the Su-7B should move down.
Looking at that same list, for something like the Jaguar GR1 currently at 9.7 I could easily argue the same. Doesnt mean the Jaguar GR1 should be 9.0.
and looking at the list of aircraft at 9.0, None could actually deal with a Su-7. They are all notably slower than it. Su-7 would be unkillable in a 8.0-9.0 match, can get 2x easy base kills and then just BnZ everything else. That is literally the definition of OP
I doubt it.
Su-7 is much faster, there isnt a lot a Hunter could actually do about a Su-7 just running away from it.
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I hope that you aren’t serious
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Boom and Zoom?
Never heard of it
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Right yep, sorry, I forgot that if you cant win a turn fight, you must be a lower BR. :P
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I am dead serious, i Never said bring it down to 9.3 but it should be at between 9.7-10.3 or leave it at 10.7 but at least give the damn thing m900. I mean for fucks sake the T90A is .3 Br higher than it. also the T72B (1989) with Kontact 5 all over it is below it at 10.3
being essentially unable to kill an ariete is still not winning, and there are situations where you can screw up and get forced into a duel with some things
often the pilots own fault, but of course other things do affect the game
it will go faster, but its low end acceleration is a lot worse
g91y f4d cl13 mk6 super mystere f11f
these all have enough speed to catch it if missiles are utilized
Its not loosing either…
Go away, gain speed, come back in for another hit and run.
That may explain it then, but still, I would not consider eventual top speed all that important, if over the course of a typical match, you never actually reach those kinds of speeds.
Jaguar GR1 can technically hit supersonic, but it takes so long, that I think calling it a supersonic aircraft is semi disingenious and I would instead describe it as a very high subsonic aircraft
Most, if not all of those are all slower than an Su-7.
So? Run some rocket pods on the Su-7 then, missiles defeated.
Or just… turn slightly?
None of these have missiles much stronger than 9Bs if im not mistaken
So will the Cromwell V RP3 go up in Rank as well?
it would at minimum have to be like 6.3 to 6.7