Vehicle: HSTV-L & RDF-LT (give Delta-6 APFSDS)
Gamemode: GRB
BR Change: 12.0》》》12.7
Reason: XM885 has lackluster performance and often fails to penetrate. Giving the HSTV-L and RDF-LT Delta 6 rounds would make side-shots more consistent and give the US viable light tanks and a different playstyle at top tier, where it is basically limited just to the abrams. Delta 6 would still struggle to penetratw tanks at 12.7 frontally, so the change would not make either tank OP.
so you also don’t understand why the Type 90 doesn’t have armor right now… Then what can I talk to you about?
With a BR increase, sure, but then you have it at the same BR as the EJ Kai, which has a way better radar
BR compression problems
That sounds like the best approach
My bad, forgot it. Thanks!
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It would be, but the core point here, and the point that Gaijin really needs to acknowledge is that the FGR2, FG1 and especially F4JUNK are not 1 for 1 identical to the F-4S and F-4J(US).
Their current stance is that they are, and ANY buff would result in a BR increase. Despite clear and notable differences.
yes, the FGR2 holds some advantages, but overall, the US ones hold more.
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Well for one, we have a thing called air spawn - so you already spawn in at high speed where the engines make less of a difference.
Then, there’s the fact it’s still a hard wing phantom, so with your upgraded engine you have the same turn performance as… an F-4E. The plane 0.7 br lower.
And at 12.0, the stuff you can win in a dogfight are slim. Other F-4s? Tornados? Sure. F-5s? MiG-23s? God forbid the 4th gen stuff just 1 br step away? All of these further diminishes the so called “advantage” provided by the engines.
Frankly the “better flight performance” isn’t enough to make up for the mediocre missiles it has.
If I knew why, I would tell you.
Personally I prefer the Tornado, but I can still do well with the FG.1
Getting AIM-9Ls, a boatload of CMs and a better radar is probably why people choose the F.3 over the Phantoms.
Looking at the match difference between the FG.1 and the FGR.2, it seems to me that people are more willing to give the FGR.2 a chance because it is on the way to the EF2K, people are more interested in that than the Hornets
… actually, thinking about it, it probably just boils down to the Tornado having stock AIM-9Ls AND Skyflashes
The FG.1 and FGR.2 start with 2 AIM-9Ds and nothing else
I would assume that they know. But Gaijin’s balancing, as we’ve seen, isn’t based on what a vehicle needs to be more competitive. It’s purely down to statistics. Hell if I know what the spreadsheets say, but since the UK Phantoms are what they are, safe to say their downgraded abilities don’t factor in too much.
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They are slightly worse performing in terms of stats to a US premium aircraft…
Anyone who knows anything about those stats will tell you that is notable.
US vehicles usually have worse stats than direct equivalents in other TTs
(look at the Abrams for example)
And that most premium aircraft have worse performance than direct TT equivalents.
So for a US premium vheicle to be performing so well… says quite a bit about how well it actually performs
It really is a shame that they don’t care about proper balance. It doesn’t really matter to them, if one vehicle has way better specifications than another, all that matters is how many rewards they earn on average.
The FG.1 and FGR.2 earn slightly more rewards on average per match than the F-4J, so they don’t want to touch them at all, so they don’t have to adjust them further.
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An airspawn does not last you the entire battle. Anytime you maneuver, the better Spey engines are keeping you faster than any F-4J.
It’s not about dogfighting. If you have to turn hard to dodge a missile or get your nose pointing at someone to launch your own, you will be going faster and still accelerating faster.
But above all, it IS a significant UPGRADE over F-4J and S, unlike what morvran claimed.
Not that you should be maneuvering much in a hard wing phantom tbh, even the F-4E can reliably hold near mach 1 as long as you don’t enter a dogfight.
I’m pretty sure there’s almost no missiles you can defeat kinematically at this BR other than barrel rolling sparrows or outrunning IRs. As for having to point your nose, It’s another reason why the 4S/J is better, because it doesn’t have to turn to use its missiles with its HMD.
Is it an upgrade fm wise? Sure. Is it enough to stand alongside F-4S/Js? Imho no. The “better performance” doesn’t make up for your missiles having half the range as 7Fs.
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Problem is, looking at the earnings per match in the recent months, the FG.1 and FGR.2 perform slightly better than the F-4J on average
I have a feeling that, since the Spey Phantoms are slightly faster, most of their earnings come from base bombing
The F-4J(UK) seemingly is also being used mostly for base bombing and ground pounding, even more than the F-4S, which is surprising lol
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Base bombing MiG-23MLs are absolute bottom feeders
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These would be the “Devil in the Details”, something that we know Gaijin may have some trouble seeing. They tend to go by hard numbers rather. Which is why I harked on the “average game” so much. No matter what we think or what a vehicle can/can’t/should be able to do, the stats will tell the story.
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Not like the F4JUNK especially is actually viable at doing much else at that BR though.
No wonder its mostly used for base bombing.
FGR2, with the bare minimum of bombs needed for a base kill, vs F-4J with Napalm… must be a close run thing.
Yeah. Dreading the Su-30s being 13.0 because the Su-30MK2 AMV is performing worse than the Sea Harrier FA2 (no seriously, it is)
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I’ve heard enough, Sea Harrier FA.2 to 13.7
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No no. Its Gaijin.
FA2 to 13.7
Su-30 to 12.7
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