they both deserve to move up
the Su-30 has more missile
the Su-30 has more countermeasures
the Su-30 has IRCCM IR missiles
the Su-30 has a HMD
so tell me how is the 16ADF better than that
He is absolutely serious
are you absolutley strong text?
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Su-30 has better missiles too
Both Fox-1 and Fox-3
There is no advantage
They’re functionally identical
Using just player statistics to balance vehicles doesn’t work
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i know but that is something that they might argue about unlike any of the things i listed where you absolutley cant argue about
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Can’t argue AIM-7F being better than R-27ER lol
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how about you take any 12.0 vehicle of your choice and fight me in the Su-30MK2
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Do 12.3 vehicle
Just to show how absurd it is at 13.3
they would find a way
the l9059 should NOT lowered to 2.3. It is stupidly durable and has heavy armor, as well as a good armament and is a absolute pain in the ass to destroy.
Ad hominem would be if i said you are not correct because of some part of your personality or physique, ie. something not related to the game.
Im accusing you of pushing forward a lie, and to that end i merely point out your own performance with AMRAAM armed aircraft does not line up with your claims.
Just because I can make them work with highly specific playstyle does not mean they are better or equal to premium Su-30s.
No matter how you slice it, they have less total missiles, no IRCCM IRs, less CMs, and no HMS.
And you want to put the 30MK2 below them in BR.
I invite you to get similiar KD in ADF F-16s as you have in premium Su-30s.
i invited him to 1v1 me in any 12.0 vehicle of his choice against the Su-30
but he didnt awnser
i wonder why
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Hell im confident in 1v1ing him in MKK with R77+R73s against 12.0 of his choice.
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Vehicles:
Turan III and Zrinyi I
Proposed change:
Reload time: 5.9 → 5 s.
Reasoning:
They use (almost) the same gun as german Panzers IV and Stugs III
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I didn’t say it was, I was just saying any difference of the su-30’s performance being worse compared to the adf is not enough to justify moving down to 13.0
that is not how that message reads
The Spitfire LF Mk.IXc should return to its original place at 5.7. It was a good plane, not nearly as oppressive as the Yak-3U (which still sits at 5.7), just good. Nowadays it can face stuff like the afterburning F-89 which is just ridiculous. Again, the only reason it got moved to 6.0 in the first place is because it turns well. This is the same problem as the late zeros going to 6.0, the game cannot keep being balanced around the underwhelming skill of the majority of players.
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??? I literally said there is a big difference between the advantages the adf has over the su-30, and moving the su-30 down to 13.0 because of that. no reason to be fixated on this