That’s a completely different variant of the aircraft
It is not the best Fox-3 in the game
You can simply avoid it by notching the plane’s radar before it even pitbulls because it only has HDN modes.
BVR isn’t even meta either
Performance above 20km range is almost irrelevant
well isnt the PGZ88 on par with gepard & xm246 but they are at 8.7? or am i missing something
Agree, 5 year wait for such a quick uptier is insane
Let alone the Aim-7E-2 (equivalents) instead of Aim-7F or Equivalent
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Ground forces and naval forces have entirely different requirements for implementation, and we have been quite clear about this. Ships are required to have been laid down to be introduced. Russia is also not the only nation in game to benefit from this and wont be the only nation to have top tier vessels that benefit from this.
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Vehicle: Sagittario 2
Gamemode: Air Simulator Battles
BR Change: 8.0 —> 8.7
Reason: Since its release it has never seen a BR update. On all other game modes it was overperforming and justifiably moved up, but never in Air Simulator Battles for some reason. There is currently not planes at its BR range with comparable flight performance.
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You have Su-25BM at battle rating 11.0, I’m proposing battle rating 10.7 considering the weaker engine Al-222-25 in comparison to the R-95SH, total lack of radar warning reciever and voice warning system.
might aswell compress air top tier down to 14.0 again since BVR doesnt matter
SO4050 Vautour II N (late) [ARB] : 8.3->8.7 + addition of all its missing armament
- SO 4050 Vautour II N (late) should have access to T10 rockets
- SO 4050 Vautour II N (late) should have access to AS20 missiles
- SO 4050 Vautour II N (late) should have access to AS30 missiles
- SO 4050 Vautour IIN (late) should have access to 250kg type25 bombs
- SO 4050 Vautour IIN (late) should have access to 750lb M117 bombs
- SO 4050 Vautour IIN (late) should have access to 400kg SAMP bombs
- SO 4050 Vautour IIN (late) should have access to 250lb AN-M57 bombs
- SO4050 Vautour II (all) should be able to carry 60kg SAMP bombs
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Vehicle: Z-19 Z-19E
Gamemode: Ground Sim
BR Change: 11_2–>10_2
Reason: It cannot engage anti-aircraft systems such as the IRIS-T, SkySaber, and the like, especially with BA9 missiles.
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The M44 should NOT go down
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Air RB
Sea Harrier FA.2
13.0 → 12.7
This is likely the single worse FOX-3 Slinger in the whole game, it is not comparable to even its brother the AV-8B+
It desperately needs to go down in BR
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Vehicle : Mirage IIIE
Mode : Air Realistic
Change : 10.7 > 10.3
Reason : It’s a heavier Mirage IIIC at 10.7 for having countermeasures. A 0.7 BR jump seems a bit too excessive for trading some flight model for countermeasures.
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Vehicle: Chieftain Mk.10
Gamemode: Ground RB
BR Change: 9.3 —> 9.0
Reason: At BR 9.3, the L23 APFSDS has poor penetration against sloped armor, and the vehicle’s mobility is inadequate for the Battle Rating.
Vehicle: Chieftain 900
Gamemode: Ground RB
BR Change: 9.3 —> 9.0
Reason: The excellent mobility that serves as this vehicle’s strength cannot be utilized at all at BR 9.3.
Also, please do not shorten the reload time of the Panzer IV. Although its BR has been lowered, it possesses immense damage potential per shot; buffing it—even if its win rate is currently low—would ruin the game’s balance.
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it is for BVR, hands down the fastest fox3 in the game for some reason, no combat record btw
The wiki also says that the design changed many times and multiple elements of it were never finalised.
So, to a degree atleast, They’re still fake
no, the pgz88 is on par with the russian zsu-37-2
the performance of skyflash DF is less of the issue as they are mostly just for front/side aspect swipes at people, the missing two vs the USN F-4J on our F-4K and J(UK) is.
What??