there never were any Ho-Ri prototypes
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Ground RB
All 11.7 Challenger 2s
(Challenger 2, Challenger 2 2F, Challenger 2 TES, Challenger 2 OES)
11.7 → 11.7
Remove L23A1 as the stock shell , and replace it with L26A1, like you have done with Challenger 2 Black Night and Challenger 2E
L23A1 is not a suitable stock ground at that BR, and L26A1 is equal to other stock ground at the BR such as 3BM42 or M829
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Vehicle: F-15C GE
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Simulator
BR Change: 14.3 —> 14.7
Reason: The F-15C GE started out as a relatively weak addition, but has only gotten stronger as it has received more and more buffs. The addition of BOL and additional AMRAAM mountings in the December 2025 update was quite a notable buff for the airframes on its own, easily making the F-15C GE the strongest of the 14.3 aircraft. The relatively recent addition of Aim-120D has taken it even further and its now consistently within the top 5 aircraft at 14.3/14.7 according to Statshark, even beating out the German AESA Typhoon and the Su-30SM2. During March it was ONLY beaten by the FGR4 (AESA). I think it’s pretty clear that the F-15C GE is no longer a 14.3 worthy aircraft and instead should be 14.7.
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Vehicle: Kfir C2
Mode: Air RB
Change: 11.7 → 11.3
would allow for a logical progression down from the C7 to the canard. The C2 is currently completely overtiered for it only having 2 missiles.
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Vehicle: J-15T
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Simulator
BR Change: 14.7 —> 14.3
Reason: The J-15T was always going to be in a rough state without a decent CM count, but it had potential as a niche and challenging aircraft, but still just about an effective aircraft at 14.7, that was until the changes to the PL-12 family of missile, which has removed one of its core advantages over most other aircraft of a similar nature, this has simply turned the J-15T into a straight downgrade over almost anything else at 14.3, let alone 14.7.
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Mode: Realistic battles
Vehicle: Strikemaster mk88
BR change with new weapon: 6.3>6.7/7.0 with new air to air armament (miniguns/20mm cannons)
Reasoning:
As shown via these reports
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eq1ml5W6sNK1
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/o9gNfes1s1UE
The Strikemaster is capable of using more than just the universal 7.62 gunpod. The main reason for its relatively lower BR then its performance is the lack of offensive capacity vs other aircraft, especially fighters. This means that the Strikemaster is able to dominate in GRB due to its weapons options and capacity and also in 1 on 1 combat against other aircraft even with its limited weapons.
The solution is to grant it access to the SUU-11 gunpod and the 20mm 20m 621 20mm cannon and increase BR accordingly.
As other aircraft have similar armament at those BRs such as the MB326B/K aircraft.
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the original wooden mock-up?
If it moves up then both the Cl13B and F4D should go up as well as they are both superior to the 91Y. The logic for moving just the 91Y up and leaving the objectively better planes at the lower br makes no sense.
Also 91YS should be 9.0 along with the Y since its a side grade or even slight downgrade at worst.
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M-346FA (AAB) 13.0 → 12.7, this would allow to use the plane in Assault air arcade mode, which would make the grind of vital modifications way easier.
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Vehicle: T26E5
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 6.7 → 6.7
Reasoning: The T26E5 is very close in performance to the Tiger II(H), trading firepower for better turret armor and a slightly weaker hull. Unless the Tiger II(H) is also moving to 7.0, the T26E5 should stay at its current BR
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finally someone saying facts
Vehicle: VT4
Mode: Ground RB
Change: 12.3 → 11.7 also moving to Rank VII
As of right now, the VT4 is a very weird tank in the tech tree that doesnt feel like it has any point of being played over any tank at 12.3 and honestly even when compared to the Al Khaled it doesnt really offer anything over that tank, therefore i would suggest to make it go down in BR to 11.7 in order to make it fit into that nice Chinese lineup on that BR where if a player is not owning the Al Khaled it would offer a tradeoff to the MBT 2000, as you are losing mobility but therefore gaining better optics and a bit of reload
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Vehicle : AMX-32 (105)
Mode : Ground Realistic
Change : 9.3 > 9.0
Reasoning : Absolutely zero reason for this thing to stay at 9.3 if Leopard 1A5 is going down to 9.0 when they perform very similarly. AMX-32’s 10x fixed optics is also horrible compared to adjustable zoom of 1A5
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Firebrand TF Mk IV
3.7 → 3.3
The right idea with GRB, but also should be moved for ARB. Simply a far worse Firefly, at a higher BR
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Mode : Ground Realistic
Vehicle : AMX-32 (105)
BR change : Same as Leopard 1A5
Reason : If Leopard1A5 were to go down , so shall the amx-32(105) , since it’s way more sluggish , worse shell but get a 20mm in return.
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Vehicle: Hawk 200
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 10.7 —> 10.3
Reason: The Hawk 200 could be best compared to something like the A-10A in the US for CAS in GRB which currently resides at 10.3. Whilst the Hawk is faster, the A-10A compensates by having a far larger weapons load and defensive suite. In maximum A2G configurations, the A-10A can field 6x AGM-65B, in addition to other rockets or bombs, and still carry 2x Aim-9Ls and 480 CMs. The Hawk 200 on the other hand, currently at 10.7 could only carry 4x AGM-65B, a single unguided bomb, no AAMs and only 60 CMs, substantially weaker, especially if also compared to the A-10A Late which exchanges the AGM-65Bs for AGM-65Ds and 4x Aim-9Ls currently at 10.7. Whilst the Hawk is the faster airframe, the differences in loadout more than mitigate this difference.
At the same BR as the Hawk 200, is the Hawk 209, with 4x AGM-65Gs and 2x Aim-9P-4s or the Hawk 200 RDA
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AuF1 finally moving down, but still not fixing the velocity on its proxy fuze rounds (VIDAR has the same issue). Would take changing one number and it hasn’t been changed for years
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Does no one really care about ACE? Every time you make adjustments, I have to rebuild my lineups. The ACE crews for some vehicles conflict with each other.
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Ground RB - AMX-30 S DCA : 8.7 > 8.3
With the removal of its APDS belt, the AMX-30 S DCA is weaker against tanks, and is (and always been) meh against planes because of it’s radar. Compared to the Gepard, the vehicle that it ressembles the most to, it is inferior in everything (the Gepard have a better radar,still have an APDS belt, a gun stabilizer, a better shaped turret making it more tricky for a critical shot meaning it’s more survivable than the AMX one, and can destroy both tanks and plane without much problem) and yet the Gepard is 8.3. The AMX-30 S DCA should also drop to 8.3 or at least see the return of its APDS belt. Another solution could be the addition of the AMX-13 DCA (same turret and gun as the AMX-30 S DCA) but on an AMX-13 chassis, at BR 8.0 or 8.3 (version both with or without a radar exist).
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Hawk 200 RDA
11.3 → 11.0
No other changes
OR
11.3 → 11.3
Add missing 2 Skyflashes
THe Hawk 200 RDA isn’t particularly good, ive been spading it recently, and you are only able to get kills with Skyflashes, the 9Ls have limited effectiveness from this platform at the BR
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