Petition for remove or nerf pantsir s1

@CyrusJackson
I gave you an option and you backed off.
My challenge remains if you ever choose to come back after backing off.
If you are scared of the F-16C, just say so.
You won’t take the challenge cause you know the Pantsir’s incapable.

You can keep defending Russian equipment though.
War Thunder needs SPAA superior to Pantsir no matter how much you imply otherwise.

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So this is CAS/ Heli problem , don’t act like the situation about CAS/Heli in ground was good before the Su34 and even before the introduction of the Pantsir

It will not , CAS/Heli are still way too strong and top tier is not the only BR in the game. The problem of CAS being OP in ground is not new , what you trying to do is buying time before gaijin add more jet into the game. The Su-34 Pansir combo simply a waking call for the entire ground RB enjoyer to stop being sheep and call for a nerf of CAS/Heli across the board. Not nerf this nerfing that , that will not solve anything. Pansir while it is the most useful out of a bunch of useless one that doesn’t mean it is OP or borderline broken like many of you make it out to be. So wake up , wake up and make the right call

Ill second his option.
Ill take my gripen and you take a pantsir.

And ill win, 9 out of 10 times.

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CAS player when they have to do more than going in a straight line to get kill ( they cry)

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I have no idea what youre trying to say.

Im saying i beat the pantsir and most spaa in game with a good multi role jet.

You shouldn’t be flying in a straight line at all 😂

Or do you mean the dude i responded to cant handle using amazing jets and just headbutts a missile.

Holy strawman batman, please read my previous post. I advocated for better AA to others and cheaper SP cost to spawn ARH loadout.

Feel free to post a video of you doing that in real battle. Surely that means you can get a K/D of 7-8 in the Gripen in ground RB right?

Quite amusing to see your stats in the Gripen though. You have 190 deaths and 19 ground targets destroyed in it. :)

No just CAS player in general, should have elaborated better

Didn’t even bother to read it , discard it instantly calling it strawman. Demanding proof when can’t come up with a good point. The largest tube make the largest sound when hit. So whatever , cope. Can’t even read what other wrote

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Use it for cap and yet i still kill 19 pantsirs with it.

So yeah.

If im on warthunder ill try grab a clip or two, or you could bounce into a custom lobby and see how you do

Dudes Just malding rn

Also what kind of person who has not used the Pantsir make such a loud and bold claim that it is the best 100% fool proof undefeatable SPAA for any CAS. Maybe that just personal skill issue ? Lmao US main moment , whatever. I’m done

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Literally room temperature IQ behavior from you, be better. Alvis says he’s never dying to Pantsir in real matches and can farm them with LGB. I asked for proof and all you find to say is that I’m malding because I’m not interested in a vacuum 1v1? Doubled by the fact I’m not even a great SPAA player and I have no problem admitting that.

So yes, since you’re running to his defense and he’s seemingly incapable of posting a video backing up his words, feel free to do it in his stead, show us how well you’re farming Pantsir with LGB in a real match.

Don’t let the door hit you on your way out. :)

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Im saying youre malding cause youre trying to whip up the stat card of anywhom say anything to you.

As the other fellow said, you dont even have a pantsir.
They are not difficult to deal with in game, even in a normal game. Especially if theres a capable US cas user in the game as they absolutely demolish most spaa.

Ive got near to 3000 hours in this, most spaa can be defeated the same way.

My man, there’s no point continuing this interaction until either you or Alvis proves the outlandish claim that CAS is unkillable when fighting Pantsirs with LGBs. Burden of proof is on you both and any further discussion is useless until this is done. I understand that you want the last word in this for internet points but it is what it is.

You mean a real battle where it’s easier for the CAS player to do it?
I chose 1v1 cause it gives SPAA the advantage of not being intercepted by ground units, as well as can fully pay attention to me.

Also there’s this mode call air battles that people play.
I gave you proof BTW, and you chose to back off and admit defeat.

BTW, demanding a video after demanding something else is called an extension of goalposts fallacy.
You admitted you were wrong already by dismissing evidence.

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You’re absolutely exhausting. Not only did you give no proof whatsoever, but you’re lying when saying I asked multiple things. The only proof I asked was a video of you backing up your words. This is my last post to both of you until either one of you posts a video of yourself farming Pantsirs with LGBs matches after matches as you claimed you can do easily.

You have a perfect opportunity to both expose them as liars and prove CAS isn’t that powerful against Pantsir, it’d take you five minutes to do so and end all discussions on that topic. Not like you haven’t spent five minutes already writing words on this topic.

Totally ignoring the 1v1 challenge look like you have your doubts regarding AA vs CAS balance at the tier.

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Burden of proof is not on me to prove them wrong.
They’re the one who brought the claim they can do it so easily with LGBs, thus they are the one who should prove it. I don’t even understand why they make such a big deal putting that feat into videos if it’s so easy.

Because they do have doubts.
The pantsir is tbe best spaa in game sure.

F16C with amraams, f15E or gripen are all.better for example

@CyrusJackson
You’re in-luck, I saved some screenshots from March of this year.
GBU-12:

Spoiler



This is common knowledge, but you love Russia so much you rejected reality.

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