Pantsir is most op AA in the game 24 km of Range with pure crazy pull missile and speed,incomparable with other AA Nato. In ground rb spawn of air is a 15 km How you can escape a pantsir? 20% of survive . And is the same br of other. Or add new comparable AA or nerf at same performance of other .
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14km* of range against jet targets, and 18km* of range against helicopters.
TOR-M1 and Crotale missiles pull harder.
NATO CAS is already OP and easily exceeds the range of Pantsir.
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strange case a little while ago a pantsir caught me with my f14 19 km from the area at 10000 meters
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Then you were acting like a helicopter/drone.
I’ve yet to die to a Pantsir doing CAS or CAP.
I’ve died once cause I was acting like a drone, and another time cause I was trying to give an enemy SPAA a frag instead of crashing to get into a tank faster.
Speed, maneuvering, being perpendicular, etc protect you from the Pantsir.
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Another Anti-Pantsir Thread…lol i cannot with these kind of people. Im sorry…but not sorry for saying this but, It’s a skill issue at this point.
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Maybe because
You rarely play top tier after all
All the thing you said anyone who usually playing top tier knew that long ago
If not because of AMRAAM guess sky full of SU-25SM3 by now even with it it still annoying to keep an eye on them while dodging on the way to intercept the scum anyway
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No.
@ARK_BOI
Thanks for showing evidence that I play top BR often.
I’ve had hundreds, if not thousands at this point, of Pantsir missiles launched on me from my matches in ground.
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Compare to me i start to think you’re new at top tier and really don’t know what tf you’re talking about how work top tier really
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@ARK_BOI
Irrelevant to compare to others when I already have experience as you proved.
I’ve been playing top BRs since 2019.
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https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/250280294233812026
Pls watch how i killed the Pantsir S1 lol 2 of them at that…
This is my preferred method of doing so. Going high up is doable too but just more riskier than flying low…lol
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Really?
Compare to me
lol if compare only top tier you are like a newborn baby very young compare to me ofc if you say something and i say something that opposite to you people will say i know more about top tier more than you (come on go ask around forums you’re free to do that i even begging you to do it)
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@ARK_BOI
Thank you again for proving I play top BR ground.
Here’s further proof BTW:
Hundreds of hours in top BR ground.
Congrats on having as much experience in ground as I.
After a certain amount of learning, the knowledge left is so tiny that it won’t have as big of an impact as the knowledge learned prior; it’s called diminishing returns.
Also:
Your progression:
My progression:
You chose to spend more time on the vehicles you had, I chose to spend more time unlocking vehicles.
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Dude…
My single top tier tank alone have more battle than all of your top tier tanks combined really this is how you show yourself as “experience top tier player”?
you might have hundreds of hours and i have thousands of hours at top tier
Come on go ask around the forum that people around here give you or me more value about opinions at top tier
but hey don’t misunderstand me I didn’t say you bad at the game or something what i’m saying that you kinda lack very deep experience at how top tier really work in more deeper detail
Like yeah dodging Pantsir sure everyone with some Braincell can do that but still it had more advantages that other don’t
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@ARK_BOI
Everyone’s perspectives are valuable.
It’s why I’ve never dismissed anyone’s perspective
Your posts make it seem you look down on others.
I’d prefer us to get along as I guarantee our takes are more aligned than opposite.
For dodging SPAA, that requires training, of which I spent ~3 hours doing in custom battles before even spawning CAS in top ground.
I made the priority survivability, THEN I worked on my technique for fragging ground units with those tactics of surviving.
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I don’t look down on you man i’m trying to explain
Pantsir you said you can dodge sure anyone with braincell can do that no problems but Pantsir can force enemy fighters to dodge while their team with pantsir their fighters can continue flying toward enemy that don’t have pantsir on their team that also count as advantage
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Several hundred matches at top tier isn’t a small amount. People can have opinions on stuff without playing 500 matches in a single vehicle.
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AlvisWisla is finally being understandeable.
He may not sound as experienced top tier because doesn’t have 1000 battles each top tier vehicle but surely has more in all general areas.
Is it better know much about little or little about much?
You don’t need to put much effort of searching a comparison of the military doctrine in both sides. This reflects in War Thunder. While US having the most numbers of CAS, USSR is the complete opposite.
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unfortuntely the game isnt just USA and USSR, other nations exist too and such an imbalance does not do well for us.
why should russia be the only one to have 10km Helicopter ATGM range?
why should russia be the only one to have 20km SAM range?
why should russia be the only one to have 40km Aircraft ATGM range?
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If you want military doctrine to really take effect in this game then US should have cheaper SP for full CAS by half and able to spawn SEAD aircraft equip with HARM and full air to air first spawn because that exactly how US doctrine works
but no right? that would destroy balance and everyone know it
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