Petition for remove or nerf pantsir s1

That’s such a bad desire, cause Pantsir is useless.
Just cause it’s the best useless SPAA doesn’t mean it’s useful.

Good thing radars aren’t weapons, and don’t matter when you’re always outside weapon range.

The fact you think Ghost of wants to keep his F-16C, Harrier, Su-25SM3, Mirage 2000, F-15E, etc is hilarious as well.

Cool, they have useless SPAA.

We already had that discussion before. I respectfully disagree. That’s all I’ll say.

Which is why Panstir should be removed. Russia doesn’t need the second best tanks, best planes, AND the best SPAA.

So you want Pantsir removed cause it can’t frag CAS… and Soviets having CAS on-par with all other tech trees… and tanks that are average… wild take.

Don’t remove the only decent SPAA, do you wan’t CAS to be even more OP?

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Skill issue

Skill issue

Sure give it that but still skill issue

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Giving the nation with the strongest planes the strongest SPAA aswell doesn’t solve the CAS issue.

Strongest plane in GRB doesn’t mean much when it come to ARB. Su34 is mid at best in ARB , the best CAS in ground. That should be directed at nerfing CAS/Heli in general. Not removing the few actual decent SPAA, also add more SPAA for other nation

ARB performance has nothing to do with ground.

USA and France don’t have the strongest SPAA.
I get they have the strongest planes, but not the strongest SPAA.

It does , the best jet meaning it have be good at multi role. Which the SU-34 suck at, not the worst but def not even close to mid

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SPAAs are mediocre at best against good CAS pilots, so spawning CAP will be much more effective than literally anything on the ground.

CAP capabilities are severely limited by Pantsir

Pantsir doesn’t outrange AMRAAMs, so no, they aren’t.

Any Su-34 player with half a braincell will notch and multipath.

Yes, they will go full defensive and thus won’t be able to use Kh-38s properly.

Right, the most capable one is useless.

Still waiting for any Pantsir to frag me when I’m playing CAS or even fighters in general.

CAP out-ranges Pantsir all the time.
Over 20 missiles launched on me while I was playing CAP in one match, zero got even close to hitting.

Only reason I was able to do that was cause China wasn’t on the enemy team, so no TOR-M1 missile to hit me.

Yep, most won’t be able to use the Kh-38’s properly because they never learned to pop up, fire, and disappear. Not to mention, the Su-34 can just fly to the opposite side of the battlefield from where the SPAMRAAMer is and continue the slaughter uncontested. If the SPAMRAAMer tries to get close, then they need to deal with a Pantsir.

All of this is assuming someone spawned a SPAMRAAMer in the first place.

Really easy to do while actively defending against ARH coming your way.

They’ll expose themselves to enemy SAM by doing that.