Israel
Agreed! I Hate the Pantsir!
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They say west don’t have something on par with Pantsir so they don’t get sure
but west has HARM put hey it “TOO OP FOR THE GAME”
“where heli spawns are in direct LOS to SPAA” he didnt have a direct line of sight, he had me locked up behind cover and fired before id even peaked
Might need to check Pantsir S1 POV in replay server. SPAA radar has alway been wonky when it react to object like tree / forest as a radar clutter on certain map.
irl theory is that while Radar might still be able to barely detecting any aircraft (depending on how thick the forest/object is in between radar and aircraft) Radar should have even more hard time locking anythings that it had problem detecting in the first place. Not to mention losing guided control over the Missiles because they can lose LOS from missiles.
I mean he was locked before i even could see them at all. its a joke man
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Thus, the Su-25SM3 should be 12.0 in air, it’s crazy the A-10C is at 11.7, but the Su-25sm3 is higher.
The a-10c is infinitely better
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Pantsir should be overpowered, it’s Ground RB after all.
What I do agree with is Pantsir Equivalents for other tech trees.
its a damn combined arms game.
It shouldnt be overpowered, it should be bloody balanced.
planes dominate ground rb
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no they do not.
lol, lmao even.
The genuinely dont.
The odd match has a team of cas spam which the usually lose due to no wheels on the ground.
Planes do not dominate ground. In my nearly 3000 hours ive yet to see that.
And your response shows me you have no inclination to debate your claim at all.
So yeah move on bud.
lol.
The Su-34 absolutely dominates ground right now. The Su-25SM3 was already borderline acceptable despite its subsonic airframe.
The Su-34 made the airframe supersonic, and carries 6 KH-38 instead of 4. 2 people spawning the Su-34 can straight up instantly lose you the game since they have the ability to score 12 kills together not even a minute after spawning.
And with not only Pantsir on the side of the Su-34 but anti-air loadout being way too expensive right now, yeah.
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Ghost of Telaviv player profile by the way. Almost a air-ground K/D of 6 in his Su-25SM3. The man just want to keep his OP toys. It’s so stereotypical you can’t make this up.
average top tier killfeed this patch, perfectly balanced, as all things should be:
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An image that shows quite well the difference in radar coverage:
The image is a bit old and might not be 100% accurate anymore but it’s still about right.
https://thunderview.net/groundradar/
Edit: Pantsir 50 km of search range? Is it correct? (this site is based on datamines)
Yep
It searches the zone using 8 beams, ~10 degree each
or with 4 beams ~15 degree each
or with 2 beams ~15 degree each
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I am once again complaining about the state of PARS and “top” attack FnF weapons. Pantsir survivability is way too high.
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That’s such a bad desire, cause Pantsir is useless.
Just cause it’s the best useless SPAA doesn’t mean it’s useful.
Good thing radars aren’t weapons, and don’t matter when you’re always outside weapon range.
The fact you think Ghost of wants to keep his F-16C, Harrier, Su-25SM3, Mirage 2000, F-15E, etc is hilarious as well.
Cool, they have useless SPAA.