Petition for remove or nerf pantsir s1

Can do it just fine in an A-10. Just don’t stay popped out for too long.

Exactly. The SPAMRAAMer must expose themself to enemy SAM if they wanna pursue the Su-34.

Was talking about Su-34. That thing stands no chance against CAP.

lul. The Pantsir and TOR-M1 are the only competitive SPAA’s at top tier. Even those can be easily schwacked by a F-15E, Su-34, Su-25SM3, and much more. There are many games where my team is sub 1000 or so tickets with only a few guys left, and a friendly Su-25 just vaporizes their whole team. Top tier games are usually won by the team which establishes air dominance. So far, Russia is the best nation for CAS, as their SPAA is insane as well as their CASCraft.

Eh I don’t own it but I see teammates doing fine against enemy CAP. Thing is, very few people fly CAP as a main role. If they have A2G munitions equipped, they’ll focus on the ground first.

And I’m sure you get killed by all the other SPAA all the time.

Not getting killed by any SPAA is a clear indication they are lacking in performance. This is sadly the case for most of higher tiers.

They should focus on CAP as that’s their strong suit, especially for US.
CAP in general is much stronger than SAMs for AA tasks.

Says you? I’d like to see that evidence, cause I know I haven’t died to any SPAA while playing CAS.

@MotorolaCRO
So fragging the entire enemy team from high altitude means you’re not helping your team? Wild take.

“Fragging the enemy is a lack of performance.”

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Then simply give CAP a choice to either get within Pantsir range, or let you live.

This is assuming CAP even spawns in the first place which is rare.

Pantsir can’t frag CAP.

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I said SPAAs lack in performance.

Well yes, that’s why we need new SPAA of SPYDER levels.

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I will agree with that. Current AA isn’t strong.

Su-34 getting closer to pantsir means it’s getting closer to enemy AA as well.

exactly why you stay within Pantsir range but not any other SPAA range.

You can’t defend properly against ARH in such a small space.

True. They don’t need to interfere with the ground so they often sideclimb to space.

notch, multipath, and gain distance. He’ll have to either switch to close range options, thus getting within Pantsir range, or accept defeat and let you continue the slaughter. Mind you, this wouldn’t be a feasible strategy with any nation other than Russia.

How do you stay exactly 12.5km away from the battlefield?
I usually stay 14 - 20km away from the battlefield, outside all SPAA range.

Ok the Su-27 having a mid FM , given the su34 basically it but worse how would it do all of that without basically killing itself. Or do you mean the SMT which is the WORST FM in the game, you aint doing anything with that. You don’t play russia can you not talk about it like you play more than 1 nation