Petition for remove or nerf pantsir s1

Not if they focus you. Stop trying to downplay how lethal the Pantsir is to anything that flies.

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Second heli pad is where i spawn.

Circle around about 10 to 15km out.

Before you even are able to fire s missile the pantsir will fire one at you.

As i said using the paten, a pantsir Fired a missile before id even crested the ridgeline/tree line near my helipad.

Yeah second heli pad is a must, Hellfire has a range of 8km

Pantisr has a range of near 20km you are dead if you try to pop up and find a Pantsir and you are dead if you find one and they shoot at you.

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Same goes for other SAMs.

Just add it counter like AGM-88, and I call it a day

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So what, that counts for every SPAA if it focuses you in a heli…

There are some maps, where heli spawns are in direct LOS to SPAA. Either don’t even spawn a heli there or be aware.

You don’t shoot hellfires from that far away, thats a skill issue im sorry.

Yes but Pantsir has a RADAR that will automatically and instantly detect you.
It has an AESA radar, it doesnt have a scan pattern.

No it doesnt Flakrad has 2 shots then needs to reload, ADATS missiles are slow, Israels sam is a joke, Italy have the OSA and Japans top tier SAM is also a joke.

ITO and Pantsir are the only real sams that can shoot 8+ missiles at you.

There are and the Pantsir detects you and engages you before you can barely get off the ground!
On the Arctic map it can shoot you in a jet as you take off from the runway or spawn in.

I agree you want to be closer, but you physically cannot get closer.
Please feel free to upload recent gameplay and show us all how you beat a Pantsir

There only one heli i manage to basically humiliate the Pantsir and it is British AH MK1 using it starstreak apart from that kinda need a lot of work to kill one

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Still much faster than heli’s ATGMs.

Where?

Sure has one

I maybe will do that, but i have to set up everything because i mostly just stream for a few friends and not record.

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Has a PESA/AESA Radar or it certainly acts like one, have you never looked in Tac view at the Pantsirs scan?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1gho5um/youre_a_pantsir_just_shoot_the_missiles/

It has an PESA radar.
Yes i did, let me record a video for you

Which is far superior to anything any other SAM has in game excluding the TOR which it shares its RADAR with.

Here ya go. TOR with no pattern, just like Pantsir

Direct line of sight?

Behind hills a trees yeah.

The issue is the fact you essentially cannot use the helicopter how its supposed to be used, even cresting a ridgeline and trying to ambush said pantsir is a nightmare.

Give me a jet and its no worries as it can at least move. But helicopters in top tier there are like 3 usable ones and the rest can eat sand.

Aye and if there is more than one spaa up good luck cause you wont get close enough to do any damage at all.

What ?