Petition for remove or nerf pantsir s1

Honestly the one thing that help keep the pantsir from being talk of the town is noone knowing how it’s supposed to engage 4 targets like gaijin said it can. If learned any opposition heli SHOULD have troubles with it. That also being said i think radar being bugged to mess is hurting it’s performance too.

But we will never know cause the odds of it being fixed doubtful.

ADATS can’t even see or lock them lmao

Yeah the fact that it’s bugged is what balances it compared to other spaa, to some degree at least.

Does the search radar not pick them up?

Give centurion Mlpws problem solved.

It’s over 600-700 SP to spawn with Fox 3’s, that’s 2-3 extra tank spawns, meanwhile Pantsir can basically do the same for ten times cheaper SP.

It does not

Thats much worse than I thought then

Search radar sometimes does see them but ADATS can’t lock with radar, only IRST. You have to find them with your eyes and hit it while manually guiding before it reaches you.

Not sure how you have trouble shooting kh38s then, sm3s usually fly at mid altitutes and sling them from there.

lol good luck intercepting 4 Kh-38MT that’s launched from S25SM3 that did’t even get into ur range. And you got maybe 15 seconds at best cuz those missile are fast and will one shot even MBT no problem.

It does though, plus your in ir mode no?

That is an organization website… not an actual source.

Plus in game they have DU

Ir mode? You mean the optic lock? ADATS only has a search radar it can’t radar lock.

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Pantsir S1 FlaRakRad
Ready to fire Missiles 12 2
Secondary armaments 4x30mm None
Max Misile Range 20km 12km
Max Missile Overload 32G 50G
Max Missile Speed 1300m/s 1250m/s
Missile warhead 8.47kg 7.86kg
Simulateously enaged targets 4 1
Missile detectable by RWR No Yes
Radar coverage 228000km3 11200km3
Gunner optics 5.8x-28x 8x-12x
TVD Gen 2 Gen 1
Fire on a move Yes No
Smoke discharges No Yes

Yea Pantsir S1 is clearly on pair with other SAMs like FlaRakRad, they radar coverage is just 20x bigger then on Roland system, its optics is just a bit better…

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Another “organization” website… this time IAEA

6. What are the military uses of depleted uranium?

Uranium’s physical and chemical properties make it very suitable for military uses. DU is used in the manufacturing of ammunitions used to pierce armour plating, such as those found on tanks, in missile nose cones and as a component of tank armour. Armour made of depleted uranium is much more resistant to penetration by conventional anti-armour ammunitions than conventional hard rolled steel armour plate.

Armour piercing ammunitions are generally referred to as “kinetic energy penetrators”. DU is preferred to other metals, because of its high density, its pyrophoric nature (DU self-ignites when exposed to temperatures of 600° to 700° and high pressures), and its property of becoming sharper, through adiabatic shearing, as it penetrates armour plating . On impact with targets, DU penetrators ignite, breaking up in fragments, and forming an aerosol of particles (“DU dust”) whose size depends on the angle of the impact, the velocity of the penetrator, and the temperature. These fine dust particles, can catch fire spontaneously in air. Small pieces may ignite in a fire and burn, but tests have shown that large pieces, like the penetrators used in anti-tank weapons, or in aircraft balance weights, will not normally ignite in a fire.

RIP, that’s an unlucky moment.

The F-16C can in fact, pick up the pansir, they pull high g turns when I fire at them, and they evade my missile one after the other then I get slammed by a Jdam or something

The F-16C can only detect the search radar, not the tracking radar. If they just pull G’s it’s probably either because they saw your launch (smoke trail, targeting pod) or they hear the missile getting close (at long ranges you can hear the missile approaching quite well, at closer ranges it’s usually useless as closure rates will be too high to react though).

If they are just pulling Gs otherwise, that’s probably because they literally do not know you launched but dodge preemptively because they see S1 (search radar) on their RWR so they expect that a missile can appear at any moment. But I suspect it’s because they just saw you launch visually.

The only aircraft that can detect K-band (what the pantsir’s tracking radar uses) are the Su-25SM3 and a bunch of helicopters.

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Well most of the top tier pilots usually know to fly to the ground immediately regardless of what aa is on the enemy team, otherwise your a free kill.