Every nation needs to get a Pantsir equivalent and AMRAAM loadout needs to be reduced to like 200SP to spawn, then Pantsir will be fine.
So just to be clear, AMRAAM only or all ARHs?
@CyrusJackson
Ah yes, straight to character attacks which means you admit my post is correct.
CAP is immune to all SPAA in the game, which means Pantsir can’t protect Su-34 against aircraft anymore than TOR-M1 or ADATS could.
CAP is not speed limited to below mach 1, and mach 0.9 is all you need to avoid Pantsir’s missiles.
On top of all that, AMRAAMs don’t care about your 12km range in the case of TOR-M1, as they have a range exceeding 20km.
On top of all that, Su-34 will be outside of TOR-M1/ITO range itself, which means CAP will be outside Pantsir range with IR missiles.
Pantsir is not fine because CAS and CAP is unkillable by Pantsir; all ten tech trees NEED SPAA superior to that of Pantsir.
And any desire to remove SPAA superior to that of ITO-90 is OBVIOUSLY a defense of CAS.
Pretty sure he means all Fox 3s (ARHs).
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Yes all ARH
There you go, you’re doing exactly what I asked you not to do… Please separate the argument you make from what you consider an attack on your person. Just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I’m personally attacking you.
Can you post a video where you play these top tier fighters and farm Pantsir so easily, since you love to brag so much about it? I’ve checked your stats and they clearly speak another story so I’d really like to see your words put into action. It shouldn’t be hard to do it matches after matches since you said you never get killed by Pantsir, right?
@CyrusJackson I’ve never bragged about anything in this discussion.
Defeating the existing SPAA in the game is not skill worthy to me nor to any person that sincerely mains CAS.
I am also not a content creator.
My challenge to any and all Pantsir owners that think they’ll somehow find away around Pantsir’s inherent flaws remains: 1v1 me. I think I almost have the F-16’s Mavs, just a couple more battles if I don’t have them already.
Since when does one need to be a content creator to post a video? Just record a few matches where you do these feats.
Are you sure about that?
Surely it won’t be a problem for you to back up these words? You apparently never get shot down by Pantsir while fighting them with laser guided GBU. Meanwhile, content creators known for being good at the game are struggling to kill them with AGMs. I’m sure we all have a lot to learn from you.
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@CyrusJackson
1- That’s me talking about planes, I am not a plane, thus I am not bragging.
2- Once again me talking about plane capabilities, not myself.
3- Once again me talking about plane capabilities, not myself.
If you want to know my skill against Pantsir? I think I’d need to be demoted to Mig-27K while being restricted to laser guided missiles, not bombs, missiles. 13km max range I think.
THAT would show I’m not a particularly great CAS player and be balanced against Pantsir.
Go learn from Hunter and Cavenub, they’re content creators that know CAS.
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It’s quite clear you’re never going to post a video of you backing up your words about Pantsir. A fat case of ‘trust me bro’. Your opinion on the Pantsir can safely be ignored until you do so.
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@CyrusJackson
I gave you an option and you backed off.
My challenge remains if you ever choose to come back after backing off.
If you are scared of the F-16C, just say so.
You won’t take the challenge cause you know the Pantsir’s incapable.
You can keep defending Russian equipment though.
War Thunder needs SPAA superior to Pantsir no matter how much you imply otherwise.
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So this is CAS/ Heli problem , don’t act like the situation about CAS/Heli in ground was good before the Su34 and even before the introduction of the Pantsir
It will not , CAS/Heli are still way too strong and top tier is not the only BR in the game. The problem of CAS being OP in ground is not new , what you trying to do is buying time before gaijin add more jet into the game. The Su-34 Pansir combo simply a waking call for the entire ground RB enjoyer to stop being sheep and call for a nerf of CAS/Heli across the board. Not nerf this nerfing that , that will not solve anything. Pansir while it is the most useful out of a bunch of useless one that doesn’t mean it is OP or borderline broken like many of you make it out to be. So wake up , wake up and make the right call
Ill second his option.
Ill take my gripen and you take a pantsir.
And ill win, 9 out of 10 times.
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CAS player when they have to do more than going in a straight line to get kill ( they cry)
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I have no idea what youre trying to say.
Im saying i beat the pantsir and most spaa in game with a good multi role jet.
You shouldn’t be flying in a straight line at all 😂
Or do you mean the dude i responded to cant handle using amazing jets and just headbutts a missile.
Holy strawman batman, please read my previous post. I advocated for better AA to others and cheaper SP cost to spawn ARH loadout.
Feel free to post a video of you doing that in real battle. Surely that means you can get a K/D of 7-8 in the Gripen in ground RB right?
Quite amusing to see your stats in the Gripen though. You have 190 deaths and 19 ground targets destroyed in it. :)
No just CAS player in general, should have elaborated better
Didn’t even bother to read it , discard it instantly calling it strawman. Demanding proof when can’t come up with a good point. The largest tube make the largest sound when hit. So whatever , cope. Can’t even read what other wrote
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Use it for cap and yet i still kill 19 pantsirs with it.
So yeah.
If im on warthunder ill try grab a clip or two, or you could bounce into a custom lobby and see how you do
Dudes Just malding rn
Also what kind of person who has not used the Pantsir make such a loud and bold claim that it is the best 100% fool proof undefeatable SPAA for any CAS. Maybe that just personal skill issue ? Lmao US main moment , whatever. I’m done
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Literally room temperature IQ behavior from you, be better. Alvis says he’s never dying to Pantsir in real matches and can farm them with LGB. I asked for proof and all you find to say is that I’m malding because I’m not interested in a vacuum 1v1? Doubled by the fact I’m not even a great SPAA player and I have no problem admitting that.
So yes, since you’re running to his defense and he’s seemingly incapable of posting a video backing up his words, feel free to do it in his stead, show us how well you’re farming Pantsir with LGB in a real match.
Don’t let the door hit you on your way out. :)
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