Permanently lock maximum uptier and downtier to 0.3 BR and give BVR players their own matchmaking

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After Ninth Wave, top tier air honestly feels worse than ever. Anything above 13.3 is just… not enjoyable.

Most matches turn into the same thing: everyone climbs to like 10km, flies in a straight line, and starts spamming missiles. That’s it. You barely get actual fights anymore. And the weird part is this is happening in jets that are supposed to be insanely maneuverable, but none of that matters because everything is decided before you even get close.

I know I’m not the only one feeling this either. A lot of games just feel decided by who launches first or who gets a better radar lock early on.

Some of the main problems:

BVR missile spam is basically the whole gameplay loop now
Dogfights almost never happen, or they end instantly
Uptiers feel really bad — some planes just can’t compete at all
BR compression at top tier makes things even worse
Counterplay feels inconsistent (sometimes flares/chaff work, sometimes they just don’t)
Teams just blob together and throw missiles instead of actually fighting
Maps don’t really help, they just encourage this playstyle

I’m not saying remove missiles or anything, but right now it feels like maneuvering skill barely matters compared to just having better missiles/radar.

At the very least:

Reduce BR spread at top tier (±0.7 would help a lot)
Decompress 13.0+ so aircraft aren’t forced into bad matchups
Give us more reliable ways to counter missiles
Maybe adjust maps/objectives so it’s not just “climb and launch” every game

Right now top tier feels more like a missile simulator than an air combat game. It’d be nice if there was a bit more actual fighting again.

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Edit: No comment… after i looked at smth

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imagine that, modern jets built around BVR engaging in BVR.

Such as?

PS: lol, you have both JAS39D and MiG-29M. There are certainly better ways to spend money.

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Skill issue unless you’re stock

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Sounds like you’re just not notching/flaring correctly.

You have 6 for radar missiles:

  1. Not getting shot at (works 100% of the time)
  2. Going cold (works for long range BVR, very risky at closer ranges against long range missiles)
  3. Multipath (gambling simulator, good only against people co-alt to push a dogfight or Last-Resort when out of chaff)
  4. MCM (No-skill way to easily put yourself into an advantageous position, please don’t do this)
  5. GunCM (kinda funny tactic, works best with 20mm revolving cannons)
  6. The humble notch (pretty much 100% effective, all it requires is you knowing how to do it properly)

What do you think modern air combat looks like? It sure ain’t dogfights.

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Most of his top planes are not tech tree, that does say quite a bit

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it sure is mystery lmao

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only now ? brotato top tier is not fun since at least 4 updates

edit : tf did i just read…

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Sometimes it isn’t the case that the top-tier BVR gameplay needs changing as much as it is that the gameplay simply doesn’t suit or interest people. Sometimes it’s just not for you, and that’s okay.