Pen is historically inaccurate in ground forces

Other people have already submitted suggestions regarding gameplay in this area, but it has not been approved yet

I typed all of this already.

never said you all specifically, i’ve read alot of things from people on warthunder and alot of them always make claims such as all the tiger 2’s were sent to the eastern front and none ever were used on the western front.

Were those historians fighting the Germans?

Notice how they don’t talk now because your hitting them with cold facts that they just can’t accept.

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Lmao your ability to deflect is amazing.

It is you the one ignoring cold facts, such as:

1- The closest Tiger IIs were 120 km away from the area where that engagement took place. Historical record.

2- The official ballistic tests of the gun and shells conducted by the U.S army provided detailed information on their performance and were determined not to be capable of penetrating such armor.

3- Applying the laws of physics, it is impossible for a shell with such characteristics to penetrate such armor, either.

Those are facts, and not a single anecdote told by a single man’s subjective point of view from a single experience with zero evidence and with all historical and mathematical evidence directly refuting it.

As for why people aren’t replying- not everyone is chronically online, let alone at 3:40 a.m European time.


Also… didn’t you leave the Forums… 14 hours ago?

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The Jumbo wasn’t capable of penetrating the Tiger I.
Also, only reason why the Tiger I gets penned by the Sherman with a 75 is because of the way the hitbox was configured there’s a blind spot on the vehicle which people shoot at because armor in that spot is none existent it shouldn’t exist and is a bug but it has not been fixed despite people reported on it. Awhile back.

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Exactly. Same thing with a tiger 1 having issues penning a jumbo head on unless you hit the machine gun port on the front or turret. 100% inaccurate regardless of what these people say or what gajins stupid calculator says.

No your still in the wrong. Not providing any sources telling us to look it up ourselves doesn’t make this me defending you by any means.

Trying to use a documentary is not a source, documentaries are known to exaggerate the truth, and some of the so-called experts are often not always true.

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This argument

And this one

Do not go well together. You refused to even tell us where to find this anecdotal evidence from you documentary and refused to elaborate on your claims of the US army falsifying documents.

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He’s deleting his messages

As a girl of science (or dare I say common sense), I just struggle to believe this user could genuinely be so hellbent on refusing each and every single historical and scientific piece of evidence because it disproves the subjective anecdotal evidence he’s building his whole argument on; all of this while trying to gaslight everyone that they “don’t listen and refuse to accept facts” when that’s exactly what he’s doing.

That’s why, at first, I was trying to be nice and have a constructive conversation; but as soon as I realised he was just trolling, I lost my patience and I admit I may have been a little too blung on my last comments for my liking xD.

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Quote all you can we gotta get this guy lmao

Just call yourself an Honorary New Yorker and everything is acceptable cause they’re Kind not Nice=their truthful and blunt about everything. They don’t like faking things honesty has a great importance in their culture for them.

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Some were flagged and took down

It wasn’t him; Pacifica came in just in time to save the day!

Already took a snapshot of 4 of them as well as what you quoted.

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I honestly don’t understand why people are like this, it’s a constructive forum to improve gameplay and for players to get together. Trolling is so annoying :(

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No… I am purging the Thread of nonsense… but… seems like the thread just cannot be saved anyway…

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