slightly undertiered
No, they really ought not to be. The H’s max BR should be 4.0 or 4.3 max with me thinking 4.0 is far more fair for all involved.
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Its objectivley superior to the generic medium the americans have at the same br in every aspect, while having a gun with similar pen to the tigers 88mm and a 29G TNT yeild that acts more like a 100g TNT yield
Overall its a doppelganger to the sherman firefly of 4.7 in armour, firepower and mobility
in other words, firefly to 3.7
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No, it isn’t.
Stabilizer is massive improvement and borderline is enough alone to make the tank competitive. That said, the M4 also has good mobility and good frontal armor…
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No.
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care to bring a reason other than “Nuh uh”?
the sherman “quick stop” stabiliser is not that big of a deal, its not hard to shoot on the move with such slow tanks, all i smell is skill issue
“nuh uh”
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Like you did? posting statcards isn’t valid.
Its an extremely important detail that throws most fights in the M4’s favor so long as he isn’t piloted by a donkey.
You don’t want to go there, you’ll lose.
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Ragebait? Bro,im using it even at 7.7 without problems XD
Not even joking, look at this, is a game i had with the panzer IV at 6.7, 12 kills if i dont miss remember, 10 with the panzer IV and 2 with the bf109 (50kg bombs)
https://warthunder.com/es/tournament/replay/380721380181941467?public_key=UOWIwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9
So i think i know what in saying
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Well, panthers are also op, i have so much fun in the panther D and the Vk, they are just freaking beast for their br, 192mm of apcb with he load,good frontal armour and good mobility,but bad reverse and weak sides
Try use it at 6.7 or 7.7, i also got a nuke in the M4a2 76w vs 8.7-9.0 tanks without problems, sometimes is not the tanks that are bad, is more about who is using the tank
Well u have a stabilized gun,u are right,but u miss something,panzer IV have better armour, aaaand lower profile + good depression compared to the big profile of the sherman (i am US main, u can check on my profile) but i also play germany,japan,france,italy, a lot of nations, i have almost every nation atleast at 7.7 or 6.7 so i think that i know what im saying, panzer IV could be perfectly a 6.0 tanks (With its cannon you can eliminate a Pershing frontally with a single shot if you know where to shoot)
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What?
Just look at this dude
https://warthunder.com/es/tournament/replay/380721380181941467?public_key=UOWIwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9
6.7 match with the panzer IV and with the bf109, using 50kg bombs
incorrect
extremely minor detail
sherman is better here
Doesn’t affect the sherman’s gun depression.
you dont though
Ragebait
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Again,not a rage bait dude, i play all nations, and yes,the lower profile is a good thing,also, try angle the panzer IV, u cant angle the m4a1 76w
https://warthunder.com/es/tournament/replay/380721380181941467?public_key=UOWIwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9
It is just freaking good at 6.7, im not even saying this because i got killed by a panzer IV or something im saying this because im using it on 5.7-6.7 and 7.7 and it works completely fine without any problems
yes, a minorly good thing that won’t affect 98% of engagements
yes, expose the 30mm side armor so i can shoot it please, thank u
No.
False.
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Well, i killed t32, somua sm, amx surbaisse, is2-3, t44, su122-54 without problems with the panzer IV, it is just about know the weak points dude, u probably didnt even saw the replay, if u do u will see that it performs so freaking good
You just don’t realize your singular performance does not reflect the vehicle.
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Bruh im not even that good dude, or i think so, i would say im an average plater maybe a lil bit good, so yes, the panzer IV is really good