I mean,great gun,great ammo,average armour,good mobility, low profile, and if u angle u can resist some shots, so yep it should be 4.7 or 6.0, u can even one shot 6.7 and 7.7 tanks like nothing,really great tank for be at 3.7 tbh,i also can remember these 2 tanks were 4.0 in the past
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With old pzgr penetration ofc Yes since they were lowered and nerfed from there, but now it may be having trouble shooting an angled t34 xD
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Naaah bro im using it at 6.7 and 7.7 without any problems, believe me and try use it, i dont know how it can be at 3.7
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You can also try using a t34 at higher BRs without problems, and could be better with the better mobility and afterpen
Oh yep the kwk40’s afterpen, that little bits of tnt xD
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Hell yeah, i love use the early t34 at 7.3 somehow its a beast, also the 3.3 sherman with the stab is a beast in 8.0 because of the low armour tanks
I also got a nuke with the m4a2 76w at 9.0 but they destroyed my canberra sadly, anyway we won
The F2 should be 3.7, the G 4.0, the J 4.3 and the H 4.7
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Bro, u are right,but i think the J could be 4.7 and the H 5.0, idk why people said pz IV was bad until Gaijin decide to put them at 3.7
ragebait
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it uses to be 4.7
5.0 is too high. They have bad side armor and mediocre mobility. 4.7 is fine for the H and 4.3 for the J.
The real problem is the Panther line, the VK at 5.0 is straight up bias. It has the best gun and armor at the BR, even better than dedicated tank destroyers and heavy tanks, while being amazingly mobile and it’s only disadvantages are targeting and reverse speeds.
The Panther D is another example, they both should be 5.7. The A should move to 6.0 and the F and G to 6.3, while the T-44 should be moved down to 6.3.
The Tiger II (H) belongs in 7.0, and so does the IS-3.
Lmao
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The PZIV H and J version are easy to kill by tanks that know the weakness and the flat frontal armor is not bounce off a lot of shell like VK 3002 (M) or the T-34 747 (R). I encounter PZ IV H version in my 5.7-6.0 battles and these things are totall joke because the shots only wounded my Tiger/Panther driver/operator. The PZ IV H/J tank is only good against noobs or in 4.7-5.0 battles.
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Not that far and certainly not for the J with its hand-cranked turret- it’s basically just an M10 with a roof. 3.7 is the correct BR. But yeah the H should be probably 4.3, and the G 3.7.
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M4A1 76 is far better than all Pz IVs and it’s 5.0, so no.
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you had the skill to but if we compare the stat of this tank to other tank around the same rank as it… They are pretty much similar if we put them on such a high BR it not gonna perform well in long term.
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Fine joke m8
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I have played them a few times in a 4.7 squad and good god they still do incredibly well in a 5.7 uptier. going over to APHE from solid shot on the tanks i use the most is a genuine shock in how comically easy it is to kill tanks, genuine baby mode gameplay
theres one very obese elephant in the room thats the reason why they arent around the 4.7 mark:
the average germany player at that BR. They are new, maybe a couple weeks since first installing and therefore have no idea how to play a tank game and are close to getting that sweet sweet treat in the Tiger H1. they get hammered by the russian T34s, early shermans and somehow even low tier swedish, japanese and british tanks even though they are all objectivley inferior in all relevent ways other than the mk1 eyeball and mk2 eardrum
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Don’t interact with the ragebait
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while 6.0 is a stretch they have a point AllNationEnjoyer.
the pz4 is very undertiered. they really ought to be 4.3-5.0 however germany mains are germany mains
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