Chi-Tos are faster, better armored, with a better gun. I’ve played all the vehicles in question extensively, the Chi-Tos are huge upgrades.
Not to make this into a stat war, but:
Plus 411 matches in Chi-Nu II where I’m 1149k to 368d. All are better than the Pz IVs.
With Pzr IV H? Mate you got 30 games and K:D of 1.
Id imagine stomping would look different.
Came back to it recently after only playing it as a new player three years back, ive recovered it in the last month. besides a K/D of 1 is what we should expect as the normal number
had something like a 0.2K/D for realistic it was dire
my arcade ratio was better back then but even thats awful havent touched arcade since back then so this is pure noob stats.
Hey man, sure, no problem with that.
Im just bit skeptical whenever someone claims he uptiers a tank outside its normal BR range and claims he absolutely crushes oposition with it (not saying thats you).
I got two dropped nukes and one nuke carrier spawned in Sherman (Hell), which is only possible in full uptier. I still dont think it should go to same BR as King Tiger.
Oh yeah people are definitely gonna play vehicles far more than me. Just that during my time soading them at 5.0 they were fairly solid and just gave me Pz IV vibes. As for the Chi Nu, is it worth it? Been looking at buying it for a while and was wondering if its a solid 4.3
It’s VERY good. Like a baby Chi-To, with the same gun. Armor is of course worthless but everything else is quite good, at least by japan standards.
I even have a “4.3” lineup with it, the M24, some other random tanks, and about 3 aircraft.
fully understand the questioning.
i got my second nuke in the tortoise, i think its quite bad in its current state still
I get your point but like casually playing i shouldnt be hammering tanks that are 3BRs higher than it.
Sometimes you get the paid actor enemy team and can do nothing but farm. My first nuke ever involved me driving around the map shooting tanks while the entire enemy team ignored me. I could have done that in almost any tank!
After playing most of the tanks at those BR I can say that Pz III and Pz IV were least fun.
Sure you have good pen but rest is quite weak. Sherman’s have better armor, mobility and stabilization (what gives a lot), plus .50 (extremely good and useful). T-34’s have amazing armor, mobility and can easily one shot. Japanese tanks have no armor nor mobility but have amazing guns, they are on pair with Pz IV’s.
Even Italian “heavy” tank is bit better because of nuke ammo.
Its not only my opinion but also my extremely good at this game friends.
I wasnt facing paid actor teams for the most part, i had the paid actor targets on my team, its germany after all.
(will admit ive done hellcat hunting in a harry hopkins a bit as of late. theres some seriously well paid actors in WT)
you can ALWAYS find well-paid actors if you look. I played Alpha Jet TH earlier today and almost every match I was gunning down J-7Ds. They know how to press flare key but they don’t know how (or when) to dogfight apparently.
its the only way the harriers are viable at their BRs, i know all too well
The Hetzer, JgdPz IV and JgdPz IV (A) all sit at 4.3. 2 of them have the same gun with usable armour whilst one has comparably bad armour but the Panthers 75mm L70, how on earth do the Pz IV’s compare to them besides from a turret!?
What?
Firefly UFP has an effective thickness of ~ 80-90mm and turret is 76/50/50. Flanks are 38mm.
How is that worse than the Panzer IV H?
Because on the Pz IV H, the UFP can be up to 80mm to 95mm of RHA, and the armor plates themselves are less exposed. And the turret mantlet is around 60 to 75mm of RHA.
While the M4A4 Chassis has some weak spots that can be exploited more easily than the Pz IV H (The ball tower thing on the left side, the armor plates in front of the hatches that are around 50mm of effective thickness, and the cast transmission cover).
Pz IV H’s transmission cover is 20-25mm.
Pz.IV does not compare. Those tanks you mentioned are just massively undertiered.
Does anyone actually shoot there on the Pz IV?
You fail to mention the weak mg port on the Panzer 4 and the turret cheeks beside the mantlet are weak as well.
Also from the side the Panzer 4 is weaker, and the cupola offers less protection.
You don’t really have a case to say the Panzer 4 H has better armor. The Firefly is not greatly protected, but neither is the Panzer IV. If it went up to BR 4.7 or so the better competition would destroy it easily.
If they are aware of it? Yes. Especially russian APHE will have no issues going through.
