i showed you that argentine is a german sub tree so to say
+1 for independent Swiss tree.
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+1 For a Swiss Sub Tree.
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+1 Swiss subtree in the German TT, Soon™
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Wow of course! With the object 292 prototype already in game this would be very nice to see!
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+1 for germany
Wasn’t the WE only the L/44 Leo 2A4 with extra armor and electronic systems?
Yes, and the WE 140 carried over this armour upgrades. The BR referenced was for the WE 140 being discussed.
I think the standard WE (assuming DM53 or 63, idk what it uses) would also be 11.3 though, as a possible replacement for the 2PL when Poland comes as its own tree.
Ah, I missed the part where the topic was on the WE 140, sorry.
Hell, I wouldn’t mind the base WE as a TT upgrade.
Armour upgrades depend on which WE you are talking about, if its the in service ones i would expect worse armour than the 2PL but better thermals & shell. If you are talking about the prototype then it would be a lot closer to the 2PL in terms of armour with a better shell & thermals.
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Pz 87 WE uses Pfeil Pat 98(DM53)
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In another thread that mentioned PZ 87-140, someone said it wasn’t finished, the autoloader was only in paper. Is there any information?
Not sure about the Swiss 140, but the German Leo 140 didn’t have an autoloader. It was only used to test how the chassis would handle the gun.
Should definetly add, but I think maybe more of an event vehicle, same as the 292. I can see it at 10.3-10.7 probably, same as the regular 2A4
I would use it ngl, and yes I know, “the last thing germany needs is another Leopard” yeah well, is one of the most exported modern tanks so, most countries in europe used it or are using it
For now, we don’t really know. I would assume that at least ammunition storage was added due to the elongated back section of the turret but I’m unsure if the autoloader was ever added in a working capacity.
I think Swiss 140 and German 140 is the same one? Swiss and German worked together in this project.
I would disagree, the pictures of the German 140 have some significant changes compared to the Swiss version.
Missing the muzzle break and it has a modified turret which are visually different from the 87 140.
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It’s necessary modification to fit large 140mm ammo.
Just because a larger gun is fitted does not mean its storage is also added. We also have no way to really confirm it so its just speculation.
So, same rheinmetall gun but different leo.