Insert rant post here ☝️
The odds of actually hitting a target at 20km are pretty slim, the missile loses any manoeuvrability past 10km. And because it’s a SACLOS radar AA, you can also fly below it’s radar fairly easily.
Well if you use that AUTO leading mode on shot that far it sucks…
That guy just flew casually, and if you would use standard saclos mode you would hit him.
What do you mean by everything else?
most top tier missiles is usually 10-12km
think only italy and Israel being kinda lacking there
Edit:
nvm, misunderstood
France, Sweden, China and Germany all being 12km so thats 4 nations or 5 if you replace the pantsir
USA and GB is 10km but they are capable of destroying tanks with ease
I’d say Japan, Italy and Israel are really the only ones lacking
LET us know when you get a top tier heli, and use it in a battle, since you seem to think you can just take off and go forward.
fair, I’ll try that next time. In any case it’s not a 20km automatic kill bubble like people are claiming it is
They’d complain about TOR-M1 being OP and beg for Pantsir to replace it.
How else will a plane deploy ordinance against any tank? “jUsT dOnT gO tO tHe bAtTlE aNd yOu wOnT bE hiT”
By doing a maneuver to drop the ordnance…
Simple tactics…
Doesn’t even matter, Pantsir will still hit you before you can drop. You never know when the missiles are coming, so you have to fly defensively the entire time. You may dodge one or two missiles, but you will get hit
You do know when the missiles are coming… You don’t know when there’s a lock, and that’s it.
And yeah, that’s all helicopters at top BR, you will get hit.
Pantsir’s nothing special against helicopters, NATO has had such SPAA just as long.
No?
Idc about Helis, they’re don’t have defense against any SACLOS SPAA anyway so yeah Pantsir isn’t special
MAW as well as RWR search pings.
Granted, smart players can disable their radar and just look at your heli spawn, something I’ve done with 2S6 before.
Only plane with MAW is F-111
I guess but theres almost always a Pantsir on enemy teams, you don’t get any hint that a missile is coming
Helicopters have had MAW much longer.
Though I forget all the models.
For now
More are getting them
Why do you keep bringing up helis? I was refering too F-16 most of the time
Still likely won’t save you from a Pantsir
MAWS alone won’t save you
The SACLOS nerfs was without them saying it, specifically made because of the Pantsir. Had they kept it as it was that thing would been overperforming so hard anything short of flying on the deck to lob a bomb into it’s side and spraying it with rocket spam would get you killed before you even got close enough to do CAS. Flarakpz, Flarakrad for example were so good at medium range you didn’t dodge them most of the time, you would die if you even tried to. You dealt with those SPAAs by spamming rocket salvos to trigger the proxy, That was the old Meta. Now you just gotta spin a little and turn and you defeat roland 3s and VT1s easily
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