Pantsir should disappear and SPAA should be reworked

Ok, prove it.

The AN/ALR-56M includes a C/D band receiver. The document also mentions RF receivers, mentioning usual ranges of 2-18GHz (E to J band). He can't see tracking radar of pantsir.

RTO-AG-300-V28 - All Documents

Additional sources

http://www.dougalco.com/spar/apmil04.htm#rwr
https://www.scribd.com/document/401509320/361420809-Airbus-A330#
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2020-12-02/pdf/2020-26542.pdf

Simply wrong, ADATS is the worst one in that case.

Simply stop lockin and guiding missile that is already missed, thats on you.

With recent changes on Vt-1 missiles it can actually engage with close targets, another missclaim.

İts a multipurpose system that can engage with both ground and air units.

Have you ever heard proxy fuze on those missiles? Apperently you didnt….

My Ka-52 gets annihilated with simple missile most of the time, again missclaim.

You mean -20 IQ tank players who refuses to spawn in spaa or cant even use their sam systems? İ agree.

Never saw a single plane that can outrun Vt-1,Pantsir’s or Adats missile in effective range, you must be using Sr71 i guess.

Never talked about tracking radar i specifically stated launch warning not to mention you clearly ignored Mirage2000 in this case.

Nice cherrypicking i must say.

You get launch warning in 99% of times because your rwr see tracking radar that lead the missile.

Right now F-111 the only plane that have modeled maw in game. Beside it only helicopters have modeled maw. So only rwr can warn you about missile launch and current rwr of all planes can’t see tracking radar of pantsir.

I’ve never had any interest in mirage, so I don’t comment on things I have no idea about.

Harrier GR7 and maybe AV-8B too that had MAW

Both of them also had MAWS in real life as well.

Im not even gonna bother because absolutely everything you said was wrong most egregiously the claim that you can just stop guiding the roland missiles, YOU LITERALLY CANNOT you cannot reload till the missile expires the other only thing im gonna bother responding to is the last point you dont seem to understand what being too fast for SACLOS guidance means, at lower altitudes your missile can slide in behind and catch an aircraft at higher altitude the target is moving too fast perpendicular to your missile taking into account the SACLOS nerfs this means you will have to predict the exact 6m area the aircraft will be in just as your missile rockets past because of how poor SACLOS responsiveness becomes as the missile loses speed

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You dont have single experience on any sam system aside from Tunguska but im the one who’s wrong ha? Lmao.

İts obvious you’re just trying to bait and victimize tank players while throwing random bs claims.

You’re just as bad as razervon but clearly you’re a heli main so its not suprising you’d die on this hill no point responding any further

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Will they take a TD/Light Tank spawn cost because they arent needed to have a low cost to fight CAS anymore?

Probably
the ones using autocannons would probably be put in as LTs like IFVs are
Meanwhile ADATS are already TDs

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Sim

what do you mean?

Simulator battels could still be fully combined and thus SPAA would still be needed, and we could simply get additional mode
GRB (Ground RB) - No Planes/CAS
CARB ( Combined Arms RB ) - With Planes and CAS

No need to remove anything apart from CAS from GRB

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maybe tankers dont want to play sim to play an aircraft as well

ixpsr~2

you’re talking about flaring a SACLOS missile, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You need to notch (assuming radar lock) or maneuver to dodge the Pantsir.

Weird of you to accuse USA, Germany, Britain, Japan, China, Italy, France, Sweden, and Israel of being Russia.
While claiming Soviets isn’t Russia… which is accurate, but lol

Yes, CAS ruins the balance of top BRs, cause they can’t die to any of the SPAA currently in-game when you’re semi-competent.
Your attempt at gaslighting me after claiming 9 tech trees are Russia…

If Pantsir is so powerful why hasn’t a single missile out of hundreds hit me in ground RB?

Don’t head-on any SPAA… dude you just proved that Pantsir is useless by admitting they can only hit things in head-ons…

Oh, and stop with the posts that claim America and Americans are “Russian communists”.
It comes across as xenophobia against the west, dude.

Very “Russian” of me… an American native that completed Japan first, and completed 10 air tech trees to my satisfaction.

Spoiler

There are actually some long range AA systems showing up in the game files. Might be a thing in air battles soon, hopefully with SEAD mechanics as well.

Based on how much people using the Pantsir are talking shit about it here, won’t they be happy if it’s removed and replaced with a Tor?