Nah, without the long 88, the Panther 2 6.3 max. Now if we scroll up s bit in this thread, the Jagdpanther with the 8.8 cm autoloader would be a really great Tank at 6.7. I even have the regular Jagdpanther in my 6.7 line-up to have some mobility. Maybe Armen Lozone already did a suggestion for it, I don’t know.
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I think I can get behind that. The L/70 is a solid gun, but I don’t think the Panther II chasis is quite good enough to make it 6.7 worthy.
If the version of the Jagpanther’s gun with the ready rack being built is enough for Gajin to consider it partially built vehicle that can be added, then ig I’d be fine with this. It would probably be lower priority however, than patching the gap between the Panther and Leopard.
I also mean the Panther II with the 88 mm gun. I mean the same Panther II we have in the game today, just with minor changes for balance.
Gaijin will never add this autoloader version of the tank. Maybe if it were a Russian vehicle, they would add it, but since it’s the German faction, they never will. Besides, we’ve been begging Gaijin for about five years now to bring back the Panther II. Without it, the German 6.7 BR line-up becomes a living hell for German players, but to this day, we haven’t received any response. Instead, Gaijin goes and adds tanks russian like the T-34 with a stabilizer or the T-34-100 to the game.
Then let me cope. (I want to see the 44m Tas as well)
could be 6.7 with heat FS it could have gotten germany was workinng on it for late panthers
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The only credible source I was able to find is Panther & Its Variants by Walter J. Spielberger but sadly the book des not include any photographs or illustrations of KwK 44/2. However, it provides a fairly detailed explanation of how the mechanised worked.
Eh Walter J. Spielberger mentions in Panther & Its Variants that there was similar mechanism for L/70 too.
According to Spielberger, the assisted loading mechanism held 4 rounds and allowed rate of fire of 40 rounds per minute. However, this figure is likely for only to the 4 rounds stored in the carriage. At that 40 RPM rate, reload between shots would 1.5 seconds. There is, however, no information provided regarding reloading process or replenishment time of the carriage. It would be similar to Chi-Ri’s assisted loading mechanism I suppose.
Spielberger also notes that the KwK 44/2 was prepared for installation in the Panther F, most likely in the Schmalturm.
Since Gaijin is not against adding semi-realised or half-completed prototypes (like M6A2E1 and that Soviet plane with IRST) a Panther F equipped with the KwK 44/2 L/70 and S.Z.F.1 stabilized sight or S.Z.F.1B stabilized sight with the pre-ignition device would be an interesting option for 6.3–7.0 BR range. Especially considering both 44/2 and S.Z.F.1/S.Z.F.1b were specifically designed to be used on serial production Panther F.
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This would be peak If we could get more info about this
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I’ve went through pretty much every Panther related book I have, only Panther & Its Variants mentions KwK 44/2. Luckily some Panther focused website also mentions such gun, which probably allows for a suggestion as there is now two secondary sources. (Though I would count Spielberger, Jentz and Doyle as primary source if anything.)
Also I’ve realised that you’ve did marvels job mate, pretty much anything related to Schmale Blendenausführung and Panther II is here.
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oh yeah i remember that too but iirc while this was a 4 round loader, that one was 3 round but i dont remember where i read that
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So it sounds like there were two holders, but the first one had stowage for four rounds?
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@Ghostmaxi
do you know anything about this i would not be shocked if it you did already have suggestion for it ?
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What I would give for biblically accurate Panther F.
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Nothing more than anything presented here, along with the US photos.
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+1. Hopefully this will be added in the Tech Tree.
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I agree…
fully swapping out the fake one at the same time i hope. theres no reason to keep a fake one when theres a real one
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Unless the thing they are giving to players is superior to the thing they are taking from players doesn’t make sense business wise. We already are seeing a trend of companies acting like you should one nothing and be happy with the recent random elimination of physical in many sectors. I personally don’t support these predatory business practices lol. It doesn’t benefit anyone but elite.
There are plenty of tanks that aren’t accurate that shouldn’t be the way they are. IS-6 is also one of em. Those 3 German vehicles ain’t the only ones.
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it would be a good business decision to have a thing actually accessible to ALL players instead of segregating content for a select few. seeing that content that you can NEVER access puts people off bothering with the game, same reason why i think event vehicles should become GE premiums once the event is finished. Inaccessable content to new players is infinitely worse than paywall or f2p content no matter.
it would be the 75mm instead of an 88 which is a bit of a nerf but not significant with how good the 75 is, remove the smalturm for the volumetric dumpster fire that is the panther D style turret but with 20mm more protection than a panther 1 so a buff on armour. the pointless NVDs are also not going to be present so overall it will be just as good with the benefit of not being an ugly inaccurate model.
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Ehh, you ain’t missing out on much. The 10.5 lost it’s over pressure and is 7.0 along with the Panther II so you end up seeing 8.0 things like T-54s and such. Overall, no one’s thinking about getting those vehicles outside of the few players who still enjoy WW2 content. Look how many updates everyone is obsessed with modern this modern that. I’ve been campaigning for years to have WW2 iconic aircraft’s 3d models improved to no avail. It’s because hardly anyone cares. Hardly anyone knows about those vehicles either.
I’m happy I have the vehicles mainly not because they are exclusive but because I spent all that time getting them. Before the economy buffs. The same question can be asked, why is it that I had to work harder to get vehicles others got so easily in 2026? That’s unfair too. But yk what? That’s fine. I don’t see a problem in that. It sucks to miss out, just like it sucks I missed out on the IS-7 but what are you gonna do? Take it away or give it to everyone? There are things inaccurate to the IS-7. What’s your stance on that?