the in game panther II uses the schmalturm which was designed and produced AFTER the panther II project for use solely on the Panther F.
im not sure you understand…
the panther II was not ended because of its issues, but rather that the german nation did not posses the capital to pursue such another big upgrade for the panther series. not to mention that the sideskirts were found to have a similar efffect versus soviet anti tank 14.5mm guns.
i appreciate your input however i do not understand why you said what you said
I guess the short summary is.
If the Panther 2 would have been finished by the end of the war it would have a Schmalturm, thus change the 88 to a 75 in game and return the vehichle to the game.
But this obviusly would have never been done, as the project was cancelled, so the F turret will always be historically inaccurate.
Yes. But I’m pretty sure, that’s what the guy ment. A little alterenative history I guess. In my read he was explaining that after the cancellation of the Panther 2 with the Shmall blende, the Shmallturm would come not long after, so If the Panther 2 would have ever been continued, it would have received those. (I know that the Panther 2 with the Shmallturm is not a thing.)
Nah, without the long 88, the Panther 2 6.3 max. Now if we scroll up s bit in this thread, the Jagdpanther with the 8.8 cm autoloader would be a really great Tank at 6.7. I even have the regular Jagdpanther in my 6.7 line-up to have some mobility. Maybe Armen Lozone already did a suggestion for it, I don’t know.
I think I can get behind that. The L/70 is a solid gun, but I don’t think the Panther II chasis is quite good enough to make it 6.7 worthy.
If the version of the Jagpanther’s gun with the ready rack being built is enough for Gajin to consider it partially built vehicle that can be added, then ig I’d be fine with this. It would probably be lower priority however, than patching the gap between the Panther and Leopard.
Gaijin will never add this autoloader version of the tank. Maybe if it were a Russian vehicle, they would add it, but since it’s the German faction, they never will. Besides, we’ve been begging Gaijin for about five years now to bring back the Panther II. Without it, the German 6.7 BR line-up becomes a living hell for German players, but to this day, we haven’t received any response. Instead, Gaijin goes and adds tanks russian like the T-34 with a stabilizer or the T-34-100 to the game.
The only credible source I was able to find is Panther & Its Variants by Walter J. Spielberger but sadly the book des not include any photographs or illustrations of KwK 44/2. However, it provides a fairly detailed explanation of how the mechanised worked.
Eh Walter J. Spielberger mentions in Panther & Its Variants that there was similar mechanism for L/70 too.
According to Spielberger, the assisted loading mechanism held 4 rounds and allowed rate of fire of 40 rounds per minute. However, this figure is likely for only to the 4 rounds stored in the carriage. At that 40 RPM rate, reload between shots would 1.5 seconds. There is, however, no information provided regarding reloading process or replenishment time of the carriage. It would be similar to Chi-Ri’s assisted loading mechanism I suppose.
Since Gaijin is not against adding semi-realised or half-completed prototypes (like M6A2E1 and that Soviet plane with IRST) a Panther F equipped with the KwK 44/2 L/70 and S.Z.F.1 stabilized sight or S.Z.F.1B stabilized sight with the pre-ignition device would be an interesting option for 6.3–7.0 BR range. Especially considering both 44/2 and S.Z.F.1/S.Z.F.1b were specifically designed to be used on serial production Panther F.
I’ve went through pretty much every Panther related book I have, only Panther & Its Variants mentions KwK 44/2. Luckily some Panther focused website also mentions such gun, which probably allows for a suggestion as there is now two secondary sources. (Though I would count Spielberger, Jentz and Doyle as primary source if anything.)
Also I’ve realised that you’ve did marvels job mate, pretty much anything related to Schmale Blendenausführung and Panther II is here.
