I know the dev’s might not see it is as worth it but it would definitely be worth it to us.
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As we have already said, the developers have confirmed the flight model is tuned as close as it can be within the current limitations of FM creation in game. Further code work is required to configure the aircraft as per this report, that is currently not possible inside the framework we have.
Until that code can / has been reworked, the Devs have said no further improvements can take place.
The Tornado series has a different slat complexity with regards to it’s FM than the MLD. So they are not directly comparable other than the basic fact they are swing wings with slats.
Im sorry but this just isnt the case, 95% of the envelope is conventional with either full flap or no flap. This can be correctly modelled and is what we ask for. The missing 45 degree slats will lead to a very slight drop in performance, which can be eventually corrected with a coding revision. Until then accurate performance can be coded for:
25 degree no flap
25 degree flap
45 degree
58 degree
67 degree
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Why though? Just buff the placeholder code if the required code is going to take another 15 months. As fireball as pointed out, it is ONLY not possible to buff the FM in 1 specific configuration.
So they need to finish it then. 3-6 months. Fine it takes time. but seriously 15 months + whatever dev time was before that. Is just getting rediculous now. How long until they do finish it? Another year? 2 years?
If its going to take that long, then they need to address the placeholder code as a stopgap. if its not going to take that long, state that it is Actively being worked on and is coming in the next 3-6 months and not just “Soon™” which could mean at some point in the next ten years.
A stopgap fix was already deployed to the Tornado. Coding a further stopgap is illogical and counterproductive.
The matter has been forwarded and already reviewed by the developers and has been confirmed to be a code limitation within how FMs are represented in game.
As / when it’s possible to overcome the limitation, the FM will be tuned.
This is not true at all, a final FM can be coded for all of the sweeps i have mentioned, once the slats are coded, they only need to code the affects of slat for 1 Singular sweep. I heavily emphises that for 5/6 sweeps a FINAL FM can be coded as things stand.
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Once again, I understand this is your personal interpretation, however the report has been reviewed and answered by the developers.
It’s been made clear the FM cannot be accurately tuned further.
I can only relay the facts from the developers.
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i know, its just a shame this is the decision made by the dev
If this “limitation” affected the 23MLD, then it would have probably been addressed before the MLD was even added. Or they would lean on the side of overbuffing the fm instead of under modelling it. That’s the difference.
Personally, my trust in the developers is at an all time low, and that’s saying a lot. Something tells me I’m not alone in my thinking.
That is the core of the problem. Its not necessarily the issue itself. Whilst it certainly will buff the Tornado. Its the attitude towards the problem which has me most concerned.
The: “We know this is a problem, but we dont want to fix it” is just a really bad prescedent. What next? They already confirmed that the Tornado Gr1 has 101 engines for “balancing reasons”. It seems more and more they are just make random arbitary decisions with no basis in reality
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I was able to briefly, I had left the page open on my PC and whilst I saw it was censored on my phone. It wasnt censored on my PC until I refreshed the page.
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Its funny how ppl go to great lengths to leak classified documents to get a vehicle buffed, yet a simple google search will bring heaps of photos and videos with Tornado having indipenant slats. How they weren’t here from the start is a little funny tbh.
No code yet that would give slats separate keybind. We have automatic slats but no way they can be given.
The basic gist was, if the 23MLD had a similar limitation/issue, it probably wouldn’t be left in the same situation that the Tornado faces. Also, even when the devs say ‘this is the reason’ for something, recent communication leaves me a bit sceptical.
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Wake up babes new Tornado GR1 and F3 Tactics manuals just dropped (Freedom of Information Requests for the win)
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The wetransfer links provided here only work for the next 2 days so get downloading while they’re still up
Did you request this?
Nope, was just browsing FOI requests for the RAF and happened to see this lmao.
There was also someone a while back who requested SRAAM / redtop documents but got denied lol
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Been posted before, the TM’s have been in my collection for a while now.