Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Is that with or without the conformal fuel tanks though? Because i can see people just not bringing them into air and going ham on anyone who tries to dog fight. Although, i guess that doesnt matter as at top tier its about the missiles, but now whats the excuse for the typhoon then? As it wouldnt be bringing any new weapons.

Paveway IV model updated on Dev





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Is the EGBU-24 modeled correct?

Still using the EPW2 model presently.

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what’s the developers’s idea to Brimstone - Average speed far too low issue?
currently its speed slow down really fast,even gr4 can arrive at the targrt earlier,i sincerely hope that the issue can be solved

Report is in, when there is a resolution I’ll update the report.

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#GIB
Yes, its an sentence

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Do you guys think it will ever get storm shadows. Not sure how they would work in game but they would be cool nonetheless.

I’d say we will eventually when all Nations get there own air launched cruises missile along with much bigger maps !!

With those new long range AAs what I want is ARM tbh

Certainly not this update, they would be even more busted than GROMs for taking out bases

If gaijin can solve that issue I cant see why not though

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Yeah. In GRB, ALARM would be far more useful, especially limited to SAL Brimstones which work better at close range. And in sim. SEAD, especially with the new AF models, would be awsome fun.

(Gimme JP233 to use on the new runways :P )

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Hey Gunjob, hope you’re doing alright! Is there any internal discussion or re-assessment on the implementation of Brimstones, or is laser only set in stone (for now at least)?

My own suggestion is repeated below, but really I’m just curious if the topic is even worthy of further debate.

“Say the in game smoke is “multi-spectral smoke”, which is a real thing that’s been around for 30 years, and already is in-game given that smoke blocks thermals. This provides semi-accurate way of explaining why smoke blocks the Brimstone radar, then make Brimstone FnF and blocked by smoke (so may as well borrow the current optical seeker implementation).”

Set in stone I’m afraid, I went through all the possible options. We were left with SAL or not doing it at all.

This also puts us in a better spot in the future when A2G ARH weapons can be balanced. As we have the model done, it’s on an aircraft, the flight mechanics are all done, so it would just need the seeker updating.

Sometimes it’s good to get a weapon in ahead of new mechanics becoming available.

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I agree and think on a capable platform like a Typhoon Brimstone will be potent, on the GR.4 at top br bracket it’s going to be a niche weapon system you bring if the enemy has little to no SAMs or are already losing.

I dont think the Tornado GR.4 is capable of replacing the Gripen, especially with the F-15E and Su-34 coming to game.

Unless they have finally fixed BOL pod chaff…

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I don’t like to compare platforms where in there intended targets aren’t each other. Sure the F-15E and SU-34 are multirole platforms, but GR4 isn’t, I understand it doesn’t exist in a vacuum but isn’t like we can make GR4 multirole as it just wasn’t, we’d have the same issue with GR9. Eventually the EFT will fill this role for us but for now we stuck with RAF doctrine of having dedicated attack aircraft.

I suppose at this point we should have the Typhoon considering
the F-15E we have in game would have receieved the GBU-39 in 2005/06. The Typhoon entered service in 2003. We are purposely being held back.

Yes I know Gaijin dont use dates as a “balancing” factor.

I think you’re reading too much into it. I have no doubt the EFT is somewhere in the pipeline, have patience my guy.

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Was changing the smoke to a generic multispectral MM/IR mix and then implementing it like any other IIR F&F L-O,BL store. Covered as an option?

This could also for example also be used to allow for the addition for other MMW guided ordnance like the AGM-114L / AGM-187A.

The advanced development program for the M81 grenade was conducted from 1987 to 1992. in the transition to full scale development, the Operational Requirements Document (ORD) required the grenade to provide IR and MM instead of just MM protection The Grenade, Launcher, Smoke: Millimeter/Infrared (MM/IR) Screening, M81 (Figure 17) was type classified in 1995 and is scheduled to begin production in 1998

The trade off here would be the reduced range of the MMW seeker vs SAL Homing.

Unfortunately wasn’t an option for new mechanics this time around, so I have to work within the limits of what’s currently available in game.

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